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    So some friends from yeshivah and I are interested in doing the “SEED” program, we heard a lot about it, and are interested in doing it this summer. Anybody know how I can contact them or something and make it happen?

    #953389

    popa_bar_abba
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    Torah Umesorah runs it.

    #953390

    Brony
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    gotta find the guy in your yeshiva who runs it. certain yeshivas have certain cities that they send to (hint: most good cities are taken by those)

    #953391

    TheGoq
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    Brony what do you consider a good city? ones with beaches? this is supposed to be about helping the kids not a summer vacation for you.

    #953392

    Brony
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    thanks for the unwarranted assumption dude. it’s a combination of normal and receptive people and stuff to do (e.g. MLB team, brewery, hiking trail, and, if you’re about that life, beaches). doing good doesn’t require being miserable homie. in fact, you’ll be a much better SEEDer if you can get into the summer zone.

    #953393

    WIY
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    The goq

    +1 Most guys who do Seed have no interest in actual kiruv and its just an excuse to go somewhere they wouldn’t ordinarily go and have someone pay the bills. I know of a group that went someplace and where they were staying there was a TV with cable. One of the guys basically watched tv all day and they all used the TV to various extents. These are boys from Yeshivish homes that don’t have these things in their house. For those who truly want to do kiruv its a nice thing to do but I can’t say I am a fan of the program overall.

    #953394

    Sam2
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    WIY: That’s sad to hear. My experiences with SEED have almost all been positive.

    #953395

    Shopping613 🌠
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    Wait SEED Is Kiruv? ?????????? REALLY? they had it and still do in my community….and we were all Frum….we just thought they brought them in to be nice cuz there wasn’t enough counslers in such a small city……weird

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    #953397

    Brony
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    btw dude you only get like $200 for travel, and even that you have to fight for. it’s not “all bills paid,” this isn’t camp simcha.

    #953398

    TheGoq
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    I’m not sure if a brewery tour is an appropriate activity for teenagers.

    #953399

    Brony
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    and yeah, it usually isn’t kiruv. it’s often to be counselors or just chill, learn with baal habatim, and show communities that bochurim aren’t all aspie dorks.

    #953400

    Brony
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    you must be a blast to hang with.

    #953401

    MorahRach
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    When I volunteered with a special needs boy one summer, I went to water parks with him, out to eat, to the mall, whatever his mother wanted. I had fun while giving him a good time/keeping him safe/making his mother smile. Did I also have fun? Yes. So is the mitzvah undone?

    #953402

    Shopping613 🌠
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    The main part is to do it for a mitzvah, we all can agree on that

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    #953403

    TheGoq
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    Brony I don’t need to hang I’m an adult.

    #953404

    Brony
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    sorry to hear that, grandpa

    #953405

    popa_bar_abba
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    I did like 4 seed programs.

    One of them was worth doing from the community’s perspective.

    2 of them were fun. (One of those was the same as the first)

    The other two were no fun and a waste of time.

    #953406

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    Brony

    You are very rude. “Aspie” is short for aspergers so now you are making fun of people who have aspergers. Very insensitive. You should never be challenged with a physical or mental handicap although lack of sensitivity is certainly a handicap but those who have it don’t realize. Additionally, I don’t think anyone thinks that the average frum kid has aspergers. Btw you may have aspergers as one of the symptoms is lack of empathy. I would get it checked out if I were you.

    #953407

    Brony
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    aspie is an affectionate term and does not imply some lack of empathy. chill. and yes, many people do view all bochurim as being insular (at best) and anti-social (at worst). seed is a great way to disavow people of that notion.

    also, note in popa’s post: the more useful ones were the ones that were fun. shouldn’t be surprising.

    #953408

    WIY
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    Brony

    Aspie is an affectionate term? Do you call people who have cancer cancies? Due to your affection of course.

    #953409

    Brony
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    if you don’t see the difference between aspergers and cancer…you probably have aspergers.

    #953410

    In Bronys defense, its true people have a streotype for frum Jews (especially those who live out of NY and highly Jewishly populated areas. One of the main reasons i wanted to go on SEED was to make that kiddush Hashem of showing people that frum Jews are normal enjoyable people to be around. Its about making commections with a whole family and community. Thats one thing i like

    More vs just being im a camp like Oorah or Nageela…

    #953411

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    Brony

    Aspergers is a serious condition its not like being a little socially off like some of them who have a very mild case are. Its a serious condition. You should google it to find out what it really is. My point was that its not ok to be so flippant and use words like aspie, unless of course you are one in which case that may be ok for you to use the term because supposedly those who have the condition use that term amongst each other.

    #953412

    Ok well I’m not going just to chill, I have experience doing kiruv, and one of the ways I am matzliach B’H and get Siyata D’Shmaya is because I connect to people in a certain way because I’m also very chilled and laid back. I am in part doing it because I’d love to go to some random part of the country and tour a little, but that’s definitely NOT my main reason for wanting to do this. In any case, my yeshivah doesn’t have someone that runs it, hence I put up this thread. As of yet, no offense, but nobody has really been too helpful (besides for the post that Torah Umesorah runs it, maybe I can get through to them) otherwise, is there some sort of number I can call?

    #953413

    Brony
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    okay, i’ll be helpful. sometimes guys from random yeshivas join groups from big yeshivas that are going. if you have friends in chofetz chaim/ner or the like, contact them and see what’s up. or just email the director, zev dunner, at edited (it’s publicly listed on chinuch.org, mods). enjoy.

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