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Just Emes
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Two words : Rav Moshe. That is all. I see that the the only way to counter you on this issue is to pull the ‘gedolim card’ which then puts us out of the realm of argument and rather just a history of the shittos haposkim. Rav Moshe was the Posek and gadol Hador and he said that the states creation was not a problem halachickly. Also the rest of the moetzes gedolei hatorah of the Agudah- which the Brisker rav called the Beis din of klal yisrael – voted that it was also not a problem . So yes it was a machlokes but when the Gadol Hador and the Beis din of klal yisrael say muttar it’s not just that its a machlokes rather now its decidedly muttar for all of klal yisrael. Plus these gedolim were anti the zionistic ideals of the secular- only allowed real political state on the assumption of Torah borders and would be frum. Further even in mitzrayim we have hakaras hatov because we were there as the Torah states- so why is Israel any different if not more so because they protect Jews and allow us to do mitzvos whereas the mitzrim killed us and brought us to 49th level of Tuma. Once again: just emes