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Avi K.

1. The Zionists have no good answers.

2. Do you know anything about what galus means? Your position is actually breathtaking in its azus against Hashem. Hashem said the best thing for you in galus is to keep these oaths. You Zionists think you know better. It’s one thing to fantasize that the UN nullifies the oaths. But it’s quite another to say, as you do, that because of all the terrible things the gentiles did to us, Hashem Yishmor, that Hashem CH”V “thought wrong” about giving us those oaths meIkara. But that’s par for the course for Zionists.

3. It’s nice that you feel that way; the gedolim did not.

4. I told you already who it was. HaTekufa HaGidolah is the book.

5. It is irrelevant vis a vis Zionism.

6. He was referring to traditional Orthodoxy, not just Chassidim. Either way, both are flourishing while MO is moving either even *more* “to the left”, CH”V or, B”H “to the right”.

7. Rabbi JBS said it about Rabbi Kook; see “The Rav Thinking Aloud” by Rabbi David Holtzer. Someone asked Rabbi Soloveichik if he felt the presence of greatness. He answered “I wouldn’t say greatness. Uniqueness. “Greatness”? If you understand by “greatness” intellectual greatness: no, I was not impressed by his scholastics.”

But that’s okay; Korach was great, too. But he was still wrong. So it’s at least as possible that Rabbi Kook was wrong, too. It’s all been discussed. See here:

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/rav-elyashev-bans-nachal-chareidi/page/6