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mdd, the quote I mentioned regarding Zionism and the Holocaust seems to have been from the Satmar Rav, not Rav Gifter. I apologize for the error in who said it. I had actually meant to refer to Rav Hutner in his piece in the Jewish Observer, October 1977 where he referred to Zionists rewriting history to cover up their role in the Holocaust.

But since I mentioned Rav Gifter, here is part of what Rabbi Gifter said about Zionism:

“We know the truth. The truth is that Zionism is a curse, and that’s the way it is. Zionism is murder! And that’s what it really is, because it is true! Who threw the Jews into the ocean when they wanted to travel to Eretz Yisroel in 1941? Who sank the boat (called the ‘Patria’) with about 1000 Jews on it? Who? The Nazis? Zionists did it! Yes, the Zionists! What is that? Is it not murder? Murderers!! Because of Zionism, one is allowed to kill Jews? Didn’t these murderers say that the Jews of Europe are the “sacrifices” which we have to bring to have a Jewish “state” in Eretz Yisroel (G-d forbid)? Didn’t they say this? Don’t they have printed black and white statements which everybody can read? Didn’t this man with the name, “Yitzchok Greenbaum” say in Warsaw that all religious Jews should be thrown into the ocean? And all this because of Zionism! And he wasn’t ashamed of these words! I ask you: Is this right? Is this being nice? Is this grace? This is MURDER! Without any excuse, it is murder!”