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rationalfrummie:

Regarding your misunderstanding of my use of the word Zionist:

Obviously, the “Religious Zionists” understand that the Torah is our lifeblood and not, as Zionism holds, that Tanach is a cultural relic, CH”V; that’s the religious side of their identity, and I did not intend to suggest otherwise.

However, R”Z mixes and tightly integrates Zionism into, lihavdil, their religious Jewish identity.

On these boards, I was quoted from Rabbi Kook that “Religious Zionists” believe about themselves: “we are religious because we are Zionist and we are Zionist because we are religious”.

So they are inextricably tying in their identities as Jews with their identities as Zionists. That’s strong stuff. Because they are staking their Judaism on what gedolim have pronounced idolatry and, lihavdil, what Zionists are proud to declare: the “galus Jew” (and its religion, etc.) must be replaced with the “warrior Hebrew”, Hashem Yiracheim.

But I was not looking to show the faults of the “Religious Zionist” movement; rather, to convey just a small taste of how Zionism is expressly incompatible with, lihavdil, our holy Torah, as per our gedolim and, lihavdil, the Zionists themselves.