Sam you don’t need to defend ORA and R’ Schachter because there is no defense!! To shame someone in public against the psak of a bais din is beyond comprehension. And for you to say “I have not yet had the guts to ask anyone who was involved at the time how that was Muttar” and to still defend them is just as unbelievable!! This issue is not about yes bugs or no bugs, this is peoples lives? Are you capable of understanding the gravity of the situation?