What many people have forgotten is that this toeiva is discussed in the torah as ‘an abomination’. It is something that should disgust us, and if Hashem uses such wording to describe this sin, then it is a bad thing. Full stop. No matter how loving the parents may be, or abusive a male and female parent may be, it is WRONG, and therefore no good can ever come of it. Mods, it’s time to stop this thread, please.
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