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July 28, 2013 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #610184Shopping613 ðŸŒParticipant
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July 28, 2013 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #969174chocandpatienceMember???? ?? ????? ???? ???? ??
July 29, 2013 1:55 am at 1:55 am #969175Torah613TorahParticipantI’m curious: Shopping, do you have difficulty spelling in general, or just online?
Or is it just in Hebrew?
July 29, 2013 2:33 am at 2:33 am #969176rationalfrummieMemberra’iti has an alef, btw. Which is just another reason why being sefaradi is awesome, because you can actually be mechalek between letters like alef and ayin and your spelling greatly improves!
And yeah, that would be really cool if more people posted in hebrew- I need the practice!
Torah613: english is a hard language to master in terms of spelling and grammar because of silent letters, non-phonetic spelling, counter-intuitive grammatical rules and many exceptions to those rules! I personally speak hebrew, arabic, and spanish. English is hands down the most annoying to learn.
July 29, 2013 5:58 am at 5:58 am #969177ToiParticipantrational frummie- the rest of us will just attribute our spelling prowess to our overpowering intellect. i love irony.
July 29, 2013 8:18 am at 8:18 am #969178Shopping613 ðŸŒParticipantTorah316torah: ???? ??? ?? ????? ?????? ????!!!!!! ??? ???? ??? ?? ??????,, ??? ??? ????? -???? ???? ?? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ???
Plus my english is perfectly fine, and so is my spelling, I ussually write in a hurry so I don’t look over my work. The only problems I have is knowing where a comma belongs, I tend to always put them in the wrong spots. My friends say english is hard, they are right, you should listen to all the things that come naturally to us! Like there is past progressive, past past, past present, past future!!!! They ask me for help and I say: ” How am I supposed to know the difference? I just learned how to talk!”
Hebrew has MUCH MUCH MUCH more grammer, did you know each verb has 106 ways ro say it depending on what it is, who are you speaking to and who are you talking about. My head hurts tring to remember which one to use….
Plus there are many mistakes we say every day as Haifagirl has showed us again and again
July 29, 2013 9:48 am at 9:48 am #969179moi aussiMemberShopping, I hate to disenchant you, but commas are the least of your problems concerning the English language. The words “usually, grammar, trying” are just a sample of your delusion.
Did you start a thread in Hebrew, to show us how to misspell every single word in the Hebrew dictionary?
July 29, 2013 3:36 pm at 3:36 pm #969180Torah613TorahParticipant???, ?????. ?????? ??? ?????? ?”? ??? ??????. ???? ????? ???? ??? ????? ?”? ???? ????? ???? ??? ???. ???? ?? ??? ??? ???? ????? ???? ???? ???.
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July 29, 2013 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #969181Oh Shreck!ParticipantSuch a hard language to learn. Paul Bunyan (????, ????), Masculine, feminine… So many ????? to remember…
?????, ????? to a woman, ????, ???? to a man..
July 29, 2013 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #969182Oh Shreck!ParticipantSuch a hard language to learn. Paul Bunyan (????, ????), Masculine, feminine… So many ????? to remember…
?????, ????? to a woman, ????, ???? to a man..
July 29, 2013 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #969183pixelateMemberlololol
July 29, 2013 8:20 pm at 8:20 pm #969184oneoutofthreeMemberWriting in hebrew should be even simpler than speaking it.
For instance when we took the hebrew regent there was at least the time to think and then write, but when it comes to speaking the language you need to think before you speak and then think again it’s double the effort and annoying when you end up breaking up like that after each word. Tough, but cool when you get the lingo flowing
July 30, 2013 9:06 am at 9:06 am #969185Shopping613 ðŸŒParticipantWell guess what, in real life, people dont laugh at my mistakes, but when they are down on paper……thats another story
Torah: ?? ???? ?? ???? ??????! ???? ?? ??? ????. ??? ?? ????? ?????????? ??? ??????? ??? ???? ????? ??????
OOOT: Ya, but when you speak as much as I do, it comes out as naturally as english, i dont need to think, unless my friend says: “how do you say that in english?” And im like “……..good question….i dont remember…i think im forgetting my english” writing is much harder ‘is there an ayin or aleph or hey? How do you say invisible????? I mean if i didnt have to write it, it would be simple to explain, but explaining involves too many words to write…oh man, now i need to get a stupid dictionary…..(5 minutes later) finnally found the word…but….OMG why does the translation look like an essay????? Which word to i choose…..hmmmm….eeni meeni mini mo…..’
Moi ausi: please stop telling me my spelling is bad. Wanna bet i can write good if i want????? Ya???? That for the rest of the week every post i write hasta have less than 10 mistakes???????
July 30, 2013 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #969186moi aussiMemberYou even misspelled my name
July 30, 2013 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm #969187Shopping613 ðŸŒParticipantAsk all my teachers, I can’t remember their names either, never the less how to spell them. I know them by what subject they teach. My friend will be like “________ just had twins!”
Me: “WHO???!?!”
Friend: “Ummmm….she’s been our teacher for like 8months already…..you don’t know her name?”
Me: “What can I say? I don’t remember names! What subject does she teach?
Friend: “Seriously? *sigh* She teaches science”
Me: “OHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!….Wait, no one told me she was pregnant!”
July 30, 2013 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #969188crdleMemberEvery single one of you that wrote in Hebrew, made a mistake.
Oh shreck- ur totally wrong! ?????. and ????? ????? is said the same for male and female.
Shopping613: ?? ??? ????? , should be: ?? ??? ?? ?????.
??? ???? ??? ?? ??????,, ??? ??? ????? -???? ???? ?? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ?? , should be: ??????. ?????. ????. ????
July 30, 2013 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #969189Oh Shreck!Participantcrdle: Oh really?!?
July 30, 2013 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #969190rationalfrummieMembercrdle: Exactly! you guys have to hang around sefaradim (especially people from edut hamizrach) more often, and then you’ll learn to spell in hebrew perfectly.
shopping: if you have good ideas, it really doesn’t matter how you spell ’em. not sure why everyone is giving you such a hard time!
July 30, 2013 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #969191pixelateMemberShopping-???? ???? ?? ?? ???? ??????
Translation: That I attest so much the Hebrew hunger.
LOL
July 30, 2013 9:37 pm at 9:37 pm #969192crdleMemberOh Shreck- yeah really, unless your saying specifically-
???? ?? ?? ????? ??. Otherwise slicha and bevakasha is the same word!
Pixelate- I don’t know where you get ur translating from, but that is not what that sentence means. raav is hunger, she wrote ha”rebbe” lol she tried to write harbe..
Attest would probably be – Ya’id ???? not what she wrote, that’s not a word.
Rationalfrummie- It has nothing got to do with hanging around sfardim, it’s just a question of knowing the language. I’m sure if I make my rounds around Shaari Torah, or whatever sfardi school you want, I would guess that 80% of the students probably all have the same mistakes as the ashkenazim.
July 30, 2013 9:42 pm at 9:42 pm #969193crdleMemberoh and BTW Shopping613- u called this ?????
sorry but that’s not hebrew. In reagular hebrew, a post is called a post as well, ????.
A link is called a ???? or a kishur ?????.
July 30, 2013 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #969194crdleMemberand a thread is “eshkol” ?????
July 30, 2013 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm #969195rationalfrummieMembercrdle- doesn’t eshkol mean a bunch of grapes? how are those 2 connected? I don’t know who you’re hanging around, but nearly all sefaradim I know pronounce hebrew differently than ashkenazim. sefaradim distinguish between an aleph/ayin, chet/hay, and kaf/qof, for example.
Therefore, they can spell more easily because spelling becomes phonetic- no sefaradi would ever spell ra’iti with an “ayin” because an ayin and an aleph sound different (ayin is more guttural)!!!
July 30, 2013 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm #969196Oh Shreck!Participantcrdle, No. You got me wrong. I think I know a bit of Ivrit, and how to spell that little bit. It was an attempt at humor, OBVIOUSLY. Read my whole nonsensical post.
July 30, 2013 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm #969197pixelateMember????? ???? ????? ??? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ?????.
???”? ??? ?????? ??? ????? ?????? ?????? ????????
July 31, 2013 4:20 am at 4:20 am #969198Shopping613 ðŸŒParticipantSeriously?????? The point is, the CR does not record your voice!!!!!!!! And is it my fault if my translator app can’t translate ‘posts’ right????? My friends, teachers, and strangers who ask for directions understand me in hebrew, if you don’t that is your problem!!!!
Plus, I even wrote a song in hebrew, and my friends said I had no mistakes so there!
??? ????, ??? ??? ?? ?? ???
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……..thats all I’m writing
Plus, don’t google translaye hebrew and expect to get something that you would normally say in english. 1 google translate sucks 2. Hebrew and english translating is practically impossible since there are so many words without translations or the aren’t used in the other language or sounds normal in hebrew but in english looks like I’m talking to a queen or something. Simple every day words in hebrew may be long words in, english weve never heard of. My friends made the misake of thinking we say the holidays in english and translated the word Shavous, i looked at the translation and said “Ive never seen this word in my life! Try saying it in hebrew” so she said Shavous and I said “Oh, why didnt you just say so?”
July 31, 2013 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #969199rationalfrummieMembershopping613- that song actually looks really interesting, and w/ subversive lyrics too. Could you post the whole thing? one tiny edit, hakol in the 2nd line should have a “kuf” (as in katan), not a “kaf” (as in kelev).
July 31, 2013 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #969200Oh Shreck!Participant???? ??? ??????? ???? ??? ???
July 31, 2013 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #969201Shopping613 ðŸŒParticipantPersonally, i try not to put my entireentire songs up, for 1. One day I hope some of these will be famous and then you’ll all know my identity! 2. Sometimes people see them, and they would recognize me, no one knows i have an account here, and Id like to keep it that way. If you really really want to see it, i will post it tomorow and maybe another song and after you see it, I will ask a mod to delete it. Will you do that tomorow if i ask nicely oh kind and considerate annoymous mod (whom i REALLY hope is not 73)
I was writing about how everything is for the best…..like moving away……
July 31, 2013 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #969202Shopping613 ðŸŒParticipantOh Shrek, thats how we used to write notes in class when we had non-jewish teachers! Lol. They never understood our ‘secret language’
July 31, 2013 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm #969203YW Moderator-73Moderatorhi
July 31, 2013 7:59 pm at 7:59 pm #969204rationalfrummieMembereh, if you’re afraid people will find out who you are, don’t do it. anonymity is important for some people. in any case, keep writing! the frum world needs more creative and arts-oriented women.
July 31, 2013 7:59 pm at 7:59 pm #969205Shopping613 ðŸŒParticipantOh boy! How are going to torture me today?
I just hope its a different mod tomorow….
August 1, 2013 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #969212Shopping613 ðŸŒParticipantBack to the topic, maybe we can have virtual ulpan lessons or something, or do a thread in hebrew every day for those who want to practice and learn. Plus we can all fix each other’s mistakes! Whaddya say?
August 2, 2013 5:53 am at 5:53 am #969215Shopping613 ðŸŒParticipantThanks mod!
August 2, 2013 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #969216Oh Shreck!ParticipantShopping… Deep down (very deep, the deepest of the deep), Mods can be nice.
August 3, 2013 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #969217Shopping613 ðŸŒParticipantYes, it just depends which, other mods though, are deep deep very deep down secretly plotting agianst us and to blow up the whole world…..maybe they are terrioists disguised as mods or something…..
August 4, 2013 1:33 am at 1:33 am #969218YW Moderator-73Moderatoryou are welcome
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