5t vs Teaneck- what’s better?

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  • #2127414
    Ywnfollower
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    I’ve been a long term resident of the 5 towns. Born and raised. Recently in my Yeshiva there’s been an increase of bochurim from Teaneck. They always say that Teaneck is better than the 5ts but in my experience of going to Teaneck a few times I’ve never seen what there is to love about the place. So, my fellow ywn followers, what’s better, the 5 towns or Teaneck?

    #2127483
    AviraDeArah
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    pick whichever has less pritzus

    #2127484
    commonsaychel
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    hopefully one day you will grow to be a mature adult

    #2127499
    ☕️coffee addict
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    🥱

    This topic came up before do a cr search for it

    #2127500
    ujm
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    Teaneck is completely very Modern Orthodox. 5 Towns is also mostly Modern Orthodox but with a dabble and mix of a little bit of some Yeshivish and Neo-Chasidus.

    #2127523
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    UJM there’s been a right shift recently within the younger generation in Teaneck; a new HS opened up to accommodate an evolving demographic; at davening one can find even some bochurim wearing white shirts and hats and jackets. The difference is most of Teaneck is YU and only half of five towns is YU. Teaneck is less shmaltzy than 5 towns. You won’t find a restaurant opened past 10, though it’s a close drive to Monsey and NYC. 5 towns has more options for yeshivas and schools depending on what type of family you are.

    #2127548
    yungermanS
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    Much easier to live in one town of teaneck then live in 5 towns at the same time and stay focused on all the issues of all 5 towns.

    #2127627
    Benephraim
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    You can understand the area based on the feed. 5T was an oasis from Canarsie and the rest of Long Island. Teaneck cleaned out North Jersey, Washington Heights and what was left of the Bronx. There are real Chassidishe Rebbes in 5T and Riverdale with all the trimmings, not so in Teaneck.

    #2127669
    1
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    Not every town has to have a chasidishe rebbe

    #2127678
    ujm
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    I believe the Kiruv professionals and Kiruv Yeshivas should put a greater emphasis on outreach towards Modern Orthodox Jews, who are much more likely these days to be receptive than completely secular Jews. The secular Jews from the 1960s and 1970s are much further away today from any semblance of Yiddishkeit than back then. It is far harder, and much less successful, to reach them nowadays than back then.

    Even though many MOs will not be receptive, indeed perhaps a majority even would not, there’s still enough of a minority, whatever the numbers may be, to work with. Much like in previous decades perhaps only 1 in 8 or 1 in 10 secular Jews approached by people doing Kiruv were responsive, that 1 in whatever the percent is, is a jumping board towards making Jews more observant.

    #2127701

    Depends on how you define “MO”

    if you think of nominally affiliated, marginally observant Yidden, they are not “MO”, but of course should be helped

    If you think of people who go to YU and maybe go to court without a kippah after attending selichos in the morning – they may not benefit from your help, as they might be more learned than you are

    If you think about people with crazy modern fetishes, like OO – they might be not receptive to your preaching. You may want to take a sefer, not directly addressing their fetishes, and sit and learn with them. At some point, with more learning, they may get better

    #2127703
    AviraDeArah
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    Ujm, the average MO person is almost as distant from yiddishkeit as a conservative jew from the 70s

    #2127782
    ujm
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    Avira, that’s exactly the point in my last comment.

    #2127801
    5TResident
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    I’ve been living in the 5T for the past 21 years and I’m ready to get out. There is too much development going on, with large buildings planned, and the level of gaiva is ridiculous. Middos are lacking too. I’m not saying Teaneck is better but the 5T, in my mind, is done.

    #2127876
    commonsaychel
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    @5t, welcome to Brokklyn east

    #2127872
    dovrosenbaum
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    In 5 towns, the kashrus is on a higher level than Teaneck. The RCBC has a lot of shortcomings that the Vaad of 5 towns does not in policies and implementation of those policies.

    #2127928
    Marxist
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    @5TResident

    Maybe try Queens

    #2127947
    DaMoshe
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    dovrosenbaum, I don’t know that your claim is true. Besides, not every place in 5 Towns has the Vaad as its hechsher. Wasn’t there a big fight, where a number of stores claimed the Vaad was basically a mafia organization, and another hechsher was started?
    The RCBC is a very reliable hechsher, which can definitely be relied upon. I know that my rebbe, R’ Bender, trusts it. He once asked me who the Rabbonim on the RCBC are, and he told me they are definitely reliable. He also asked me for recommendations on what to order at a restaurant in Teaneck!

    #2127959
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “Wasn’t there a big fight, where a number of stores claimed the Vaad was basically a mafia organization, and another hechsher was started?”

    The problem was fixed

    #2128082
    5TResident
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    Marxist:

    I grew up in Kew Gardens Hills, lived there until I was 35. I’ve had enough of that place too.

    #2128094

    >> “Wasn’t there a big fight, where a number of stores claimed the Vaad was basically a mafia organization, and another hechsher was started?”
    > The problem was fixed

    The scariest post of the year so far, maybe as intended…

    #2128089
    ujm
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    35+21=56.

    Florida is your place.

    #2128148
    dovrosenbaum
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    Regarding RCBC,

    Having worked in kashrus, I can tell you it’s shvach. Cholov yisroel places with workers drinking dunkin donuts coffee and ou-d items on the shelves. One mashgiach for 4 restaurants. Relying on eish m’eish l’chatchila. No locks on the gas. No separate fish keilim. Whatever the OU and Star K does, they don’t do.

    #2128139
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “The scariest post of the year so far, maybe as intended…“

    😂

    Louie took care of everything

    #2128288
    takahmamash
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    Be’er Sheva would come out ahead against any of these places. It’s a shame people won’t look beyond their dalet amot.

    #2128327
    commonsaychel
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    @takeh, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

    #2128393
    anonymous
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    When you say it was “fixed”, do you mean the Vaad was successful shutting down Mehadrin?!?

    Nothing else was “fixed”. Only in the %Towns will you find a MO girl who is the mashgiach at an eatery. Does that happen in Teaneck too?!?

    #2128401
    lakewhut
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    Let’s not make it that VH5T is the gold standard and RCBC is treif.

    #2128402
    midwesterner
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    “Louie took care of everything”

    And then Vinny took care of Louie. Don’t want any loose ends!!

    #2128458
    dovrosenbaum
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    Only in the %Towns will you find a MO girl who is the mashgiach at an eatery. Does that happen in Teaneck too?!?

    Yes. In Teaneck you have Modern Orthodox kids as mashgichim, waiters or cashiers trusted as the designated shomer shabbos.

    The Mehadrin hashgacha is a good hechsher. It’s run by top notch poskim. They didn’t weaken any standards.

    #2128460
    dovrosenbaum
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    I never said rcbc was treif just not on the high level of others.

    #2128538
    anonymous Jew
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    You wouldn’t know it was Aseres yimai teshuva the way people are badmouuthing all MO

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