A BIG problem with YWN
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May 7, 2013 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm #609257
I’ve decided to take it upon myself to point out something we’ve all been thinking but no one has been saying. Recently, the number of news posts unrelated to the “yeshiva world”, posted by YWN has grown drastically! I feel it’s a major problem that our kosher news stop is slowly but surely desensitizing itself and becoming more and more like any other news outlet. There should be more uproar over this. Why do people stand idle and watch when they see this great site slowly deteriorating? We must put an end to this! People should become upset when a story unrelated (or irrelevant) to the Jewish community is posted. We put our trust in the moderators of YWN to guard our eyes and ears and protect us from the filthy news which is out there. I hope others will be able to recognize this issue I am pointing out and hopefully YWN will reform and provide us with their moderated and carefully selected news; keeping us informed and educated as well as keeping us away from the exposure other secular news sources provide. Thank You.May 8, 2013 12:12 am at 12:12 am #952778sharpMember
I’ve decided to take it upon myself to point out something we’ve all been thinking but no one has been saying.
And how would you know what others are thinking?May 8, 2013 3:07 am at 3:07 am #9527792qwertyParticipant
A Modern Chasid, how about starting your own news site?May 8, 2013 4:04 am at 4:04 am #952780
I agree 100% for whatever its worth. I was shocked too see some news posted today. I guess they might be looking to drop some of their audience, perhaps???May 8, 2013 4:23 am at 4:23 am #952781gefenParticipant
A Modern Chasid – yes, I agree with sharp- how do you know what others are thinking?
a mamin – Just curious. Which news items “shocked” you?May 8, 2013 4:40 am at 4:40 am #952782Shraga18Participant
And thread gets locked in…3…2…1…May 8, 2013 4:49 am at 4:49 am #952783WIYMember
I don’t know which article you are referring to but if its the Ohio thing its on matzeivah as well.May 8, 2013 5:17 am at 5:17 am #952784monseeyidParticipant
A Talmid Chachman (TC) comes upon Chasid. The TC asks why do you Chasids go to the Rebbe for everything. The Chasid says, because the Rebbe knows what we are thinking. That’s not possible only HaKodesh Barachu knows what one is thinking, says the TC.
The Chasid says of course it’s possible, in fact I know what you are thinking… The TC says no way, but he asks, what am I thinking… The Chasid says “shvisi Hashem l’negded tamid” ….The TC says, no that’s not what I was thinking and the Chasid says, that’s why we go to the Rebbe.
So if we are not all thinking “Shivisi Hashem L’negded Tamid” then something is wrong.May 8, 2013 8:32 am at 8:32 am #952785Ðash®Participant
We put our trust in the moderators of YWN to guard our eyes and ears and protect us from the filthy news which is out there.
editedMay 8, 2013 10:16 am at 10:16 am #952786YW Moderator-42Moderator
I always thought of YWN as an alternative to the secular news sites – a site that reports news in a way that Bnei Torah can read and skips over the inappropriate and lashon-hora filled stories. Someone who reads YWN should have no need to read other news outlets as all the important stories are here for them in a Kosher way.
I see nothing wrong with the news posted here recently. Some of the comments and CR discussions on the other hand…May 8, 2013 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm #952787gefenParticipant
Mod 42; +1000000May 8, 2013 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm #952788
I agree with 42. Unfortunately someone misses a couple not-so-nice phrases thrown in here and there on some of the news clips. Overall though, I agree that I try to use YWN instead of, not in addition to, the secular sites.May 8, 2013 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm #952789simcha613Participant
Mod- maybe you should have a kosher sports section for that reason.May 8, 2013 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #952790DaMosheParticipant
Mod 42, if you have a problem with some of the discussions in the CR, why don’t you utilize your mod powers and get rid of them?May 8, 2013 1:34 pm at 1:34 pm #952791BaalHaboozeParticipant
Mod-42: I agree as well! Every article written here is clean, appropriate yet informative.
A Modern chossid, where are you coming from???May 8, 2013 2:36 pm at 2:36 pm #952792Y.W. EditorKeymaster
Perhaps you can enlighten us and tell us what article (with filthy news) caused you to sound off here about this “BIG” problem?
Looking forward to your response.May 8, 2013 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm #952793just my hapenceParticipant
A Modern chossid, where are you coming from???
I think he’s just popped out from under his bridge to say hi to all us billy-goats…May 8, 2013 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #952794☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
He’s probably referring to the three kidnapped girls.May 8, 2013 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #952795Daniel RosenMember
The coffee room always talks about things non exclusive to Jews.May 8, 2013 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #952796Y.W. EditorKeymaster
DaasYochid – Thanks for your thoughts.
Let’s see what Mr. “A Modern Chasid” has to say.May 8, 2013 2:58 pm at 2:58 pm #952797
I was referring to the 3 kidnapped girls at this point.May 8, 2013 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #952799
Editor – although I do not agree with the modern chosid, if you listen to that video clip of the neighbor he does sneak in a phrase that I was not comfortable with, and once a straight out swear word got through. I still want the stories, I would just hope for some fine tooth combed editing of them.May 8, 2013 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #952805Shticky GuyParticipant
That neighbor is a media sensation. I am so pleased ywn posted a link cos I just loved his interview. What a dude!
Perhaps what the modern chasid means (does dan es kol haADAM lekaf zechus apply to trolls?) is that after first reviewing any link, as I’m sure ywn does, they could/should have posted a disclaimer saying something like ‘contains strong language’ or similarMay 8, 2013 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #952806☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Since “A Modern Chasid” hasn’t checked in, I’ll guess what he means (although I don’t think I agree).
I think he’s objecting to posting an article in which the omitted details are obviously of a nature unfit to put on this website. Parts of the story are obviously sordid, even though of course they were left out of YWN reporting. In addition, the fact that so many details are obviously missing, one reading the story on YWN is made curious as to what the missing details are, and is tempted to follow up by searching for articles which aren’t so careful about what they post.
Is this YWN’s responsibility? Or, as Mod 42 said, are they doing a service, even in this case, because one who sticks only to YWN will not feel that he is missing out on popular stories? I don’t know, but I assume and certainly hope that the editor has some Torah hadrachah (AKA “daas Torah”) regarding these issues.May 8, 2013 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #952807Ðash®Participant
Perhaps you can enlighten us and tell us what article (with filthy news) caused you to sound off here about this “BIG” problem?
When I saw the title I thought it was about the big ads on the main site but when I saw the quote about trust in the moderators I had to comment. (Maybe I’ll rephase it later)May 8, 2013 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #952808
shticky guy – I don’t want inappropriate language with a disclaimer on a kosher website. I want only clean language. (of course that’s just my own opinion)May 8, 2013 8:49 pm at 8:49 pm #952809zahavasdadParticipant
If YWN didnt post it, it means it didnt happendMay 8, 2013 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #952810ToiParticipant
I guess posts only get approved by the editor on this thread if they endorse ywn. i greatly appreciate having this site up and running, but refusing to post posts that criticize things that really are wrong with his site is just fighting low.May 8, 2013 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #952811sharpMember
Some advice for a modern chasid: Don’t like, don’t read.
If I know what you are talking about, so then yes, it’s a very important read, especially now before the summer when many kids spend most of the time playing outside.May 8, 2013 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #952812
Daas Yochid: Don’t jump to conclusions, a modern chosid may have had all his posts deleted, like mine!May 8, 2013 9:42 pm at 9:42 pm #952813
At the time, I was referring to the story in Ohio. But there have been others in the past (not ones i remember off hand) which had no place being on a website which professes to have only “Kosher News”.May 8, 2013 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm #952814
To (usrname) Sharp: Perhaps I’ve discussed this problem with others and found enough people who agreed with me. So i was able to safely assume there are others out there who feel the same.
To (username) 2qwerty: Why does that seem as a logical suggestion? Instead of pointing out errors in anything why don’t you make your own? If something is wrong with your computer, build your own. Something wrong with your electricity, create your own! Why should i make my own news site when i feel YWN is capable of fixing their errors and continuing to provide us with clean and important news?!May 8, 2013 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm #952815
If YWN were to start posting articles which had disclaimers such as “inappropriate” or “Not advisable for all viewers”, how would that make them different than any other news outlet. I thought the point of having a Frum Jewish site was to omit all that garbage and keep us updated with whats important in a timely and appropriate fashion!May 8, 2013 10:25 pm at 10:25 pm #952816rationalfrummieMember
A modern chassid: the Ohio story was a really incredible, tragic story. People should know when something crazy like that happens. It’s not “filthy” to report that bad things happen in the world- that’s life get used to it.May 8, 2013 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm #952817
The details of many pregnancies was not necessary. We all got the point!! YWN is not for family reading!!May 9, 2013 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #952819
a mamin “YWN is not for family reading!!” what did you mean by that?!May 9, 2013 9:56 pm at 9:56 pm #952820
yw fan: Read the article from 2-3 days ago about the kidnappings, and then you decide for yourself.May 10, 2013 11:39 am at 11:39 am #952821
a mamin, been their done that but i think what you were trying to say is that sadly YW has become a place of family reading? Am i right? Cuz they way i understood your comment is that you said that its not supposed to be a place for family reading!May 10, 2013 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm #952822
I thought the reference meant that it IS supposed to be clean enough for family reading but that stories like those would make it not family friendly anymore.
I have kids who read the YWN news and I prefer it because the msn webpage often has inappropriate pictures (let alone information). Reading a secular story that has been “cleaned up” doesn’t bother me. I just have to make sure they have been “cleaned up” well, and this one had a glitch or two.May 10, 2013 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #952823
syag: exactly.May 10, 2013 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #952824
people we need to also realize that we should be thankful that the editors were nice enough to at least spare us of some of the details of that awful story! I looked at some of the other news outlets and they have a MUCH more gruesome story!May 10, 2013 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm #952825
Check out the next glitch on YWN, story today in Israel about the mikva!!
YE fan, you could stay a fan, but I’ be lost my trust.. I choose what I want to read, I don’t need to know all the garbage that is going on in the secular world. That doesn’t help me grow spiritually, not one bit!!May 10, 2013 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm #952826FerdParticipant
a mamin – you are just as guilty.
Wanna know why? Because you keep posting the two items in question over and over and over and over, and you keep giving more info to people who may have not see the article.
Your way too bitter over this. Maybe you SHOULD leave.May 10, 2013 10:25 pm at 10:25 pm #952827YW Moderator-007Moderator
100,000 stories posted on YWN in 8 years….you have a problem with TWO.
That’s not bad.
By the way, did you ever see the Yated article which used a four letter word starting with “S”?
Or how about the Hamodia article which did FAR worse?
Seriously, get a life.May 12, 2013 12:21 am at 12:21 am #952829moi aussiMember
Why are Yated and Hamodia being defamed? Is this halachically correct?May 12, 2013 4:00 am at 4:00 am #952830
007: Hamodia did not print anything like YWN did. Ferd: thank you so much!!! I am leaving,…. 007 I’m getting a life, and NOT like this one here!!!Wishing you all hatzlucha in the mud you are burying yourself in….May 12, 2013 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #952831writersoulParticipant
A Modern Chasid: The point of all of those who were saying to make your own site is that you can obviously register a complaint, but if YWN doesn’t want to comply with your request, it doesn’t need to. If you don’t like it, the door’s that way. (I’ve done that on sites I haven’t liked for various reasons, and look! I’ve survived to tell the story!)May 13, 2013 9:43 am at 9:43 am #952832Shopping613 🌠Participant
A mamin, this website is an outlet for all different types of people, if you don’t like the content here of the members then you can leave
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