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I wrote two Megillas Esthers between 2022 and 2023. The first one was an 11-line Megillah, and the second one was a 21-line Megillah.
After I had both of them written, I gave them to a store to have them computer checked back in October 2023. They returned the megillos to me with the reports.
During the winter of 2023-2024, I used the report they gave me to make corrections to the 21-line Megillah. The other Megillah (the 11-line) was put on a shelf and not corrected or used. (I used the 21-line one every Purim since then.)
Over Shabbos, my daughter asked about the computer checking process, so I pulled the 11-line Megillah and its report off the shelf to show it to her (since I still had the report and the Megillah had not yet been corrected). However, after checking several of the issues they mentioned in the report, it became clear that the report that I had was not for my Megillah. None of the issues they reported were present in this Megillah. (Yes, I did get my actual Megillah back… it was just the wrong report.)
Admittedly, it’s been over two years, and I let it sit without looking at it, and that’s totally on me. On the other hand, I never actually received a report for this Megillah, which I paid to have checked.
Do I have a valid case to go back to the store? Or should I just let it go and re-pay to have it checked again?
The Wolf
I don’t understand. You never received what you paid for. Is there a statute of limitations in Halacha?? (Aside from 25 years by a kesuva)
How do you know that they didn’t do it maybe it was mixed up with another and they gave you the wrong one
Do you have a valid case …
can’t see why not ?
should you let it go …. that depends on many other individual considerations ….
Why not ask them if they have a copy of the original report (that they mistakenly didn’t send to you) that they can potentially send you?
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If you are looking for the letter of the law, it would seem mechila b’taos eina mechila, (Especially as you didn’t discover the issue and continue to use the Megilla without complaining, since a claim does not start until the issue is actually discovered. So you’d have the right to claim from the other party even after a significant amount of time passed.)
On the other hand, the other party might claim Minhag HaMakom or Minhag HaSochrim absolves them after a signifcant amount of time.
You definitely have the right to demand them do a new check, but even if you choose to let it go and do another on your own expense, you should still go back to the original store because the guy whos report you got is now using a pasul meggilah so you should at least try and help so that he doesn’t make a bracha livatalah
what is minhag sochrim on returns? 2 weeks like on amazon?
but presumably this is just a mishap in sending you the wrong printout. So, if you let them know, they’ll send you the right one.
Alternatively, if that other megilah had less errors than yours (estimate from your other one) – then, you can claim that if the printout is correct,
you are entitled to the megillah corresponding to the printout!a freiliche Purim
From personal experience, the computer report highlights “potential” issues, many-if not most-of which, upon careful examination are not problematic. For example, the computer will call-out two letters that supposedly touch, but upon checking the original the letters are clearly close but do not touch.
So, based upon the limited information that you presented, I do not see any imperative that the report that you received is NOT for your Megilla.I don’t see why the passage of time should matter unless the store can claim that because of the passage of time, they can’t verify your claim or that they no longer have the correct report. I admire your decision to let it go.
WB hello99! It is always a pleasure to see you again.
Thanks. I don’t check the coffee room very often anymore, but since a halacha sheila popped up on the main page and I was checking on the war, I couldn’t resist adding my perspective.
This Coffee Room is NOT the correct place for serious questions about Choshen Mishpat.
I would recommend going to your local Beth Din.
Or maybe an Orthodox Rabbi who has years of business experience,
like Rabbi Steven Pruzansky, who was an Orthodox Jewish lawyer for 20+ years,
before becoming an Orthodox Rabbi and making aliyah.It would be ineresting for customers to provide feedback to developers of true and false reports, hopefully enabling them to improve software.
In this case, the feedback seems simple – software that finds tiny errors in someone else’s writing, should be able to double-check that the output is sent to the correct customer.
Before you start worrying about whether you have a case, have a friendly conversation.
As far as whether you actually have a case, how much is your time worth? If you are going to send a formal hazmanah and sit at a B”D arguing your case, you will likely spend more on costs than on a new report. If you are both going to go amicably to a Rav, you will probably either win or get a favorable Pshara.
Tell us more about the Megillah. How big/small is it? Gilyonei Chazon Ish? Is it for sale? For how much?
Shall we make an offer you cannot refuse?
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