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April 11, 2010 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm #591518GetzelParticipant
Granpas message to granddaughter…a must read
John G. Is 63 years old and owns a small business. He’s a life-long Republican and sees his dream of retiring next year has all but evaporated. With the stock market crashing and new taxes coming his way, John assumes now that he will work to his dying day.
John has a granddaughter.. Ashley is a recent college grad. She drives a flashy hybrid car, wears all the latest fashions, and loves to go out to restaurants. Ashley campaigned hard for Barack Obama. After the election she made sure her grandfather (and all other Republican family members) received a big I told-you-so earful on how the world is going to be a much better place now that her party is taking over.
Having lost both roommates, Ashley recently ran short of cash and cannot pay the rent (again) on her 3 bedroom townhouse.. Like she has done many times in the past, she e-mailed her grandfather asking for some financial help.
Here is his reply:
Sweetheart, I received your request for assistance.
Ashley, you know I love you dearly and I ‘m sympathetic to your financial plight. Unfortunately, times have changed. With the election of President Obama, your grandmother and I have had to set forth a bold new economic plan of our own…”The Ashley Economic Empowerment Plan.” Let me explain.
Your grandmother and I are life-long, wage-earning tax payers. We have lived a comfortable life, as you know, but we have never had the fancier things like European vacations, luxury cars, etc.. We have worked hard and were looking forward to retiring soon. But the plan has changed. Your president is raising our personal and business taxes significantly. He says it is so he can give our hard earned money to other people. Do you know what this means, Ashley? It means less for us, and we must cut back on many business and personal expenses.
You know the wonderful receptionist who worked in my office for more than 23 years? The one who always gave you candy when you came over to visit? I had to let her go last week. I can’t afford to pay her salary and all of the government mandated taxes that go with having employees. Your grandmother will now work 4 days a week to answer phones, take orders and handle the books. We will be closed on Fridays and will lose even more income to the Wal-Mart.
I’m also very sorry to report that your cousin Frank will no longer be working summers in the warehouse. I called him at school this morning.. He already knows about it and he’s upset because he will have to give up skydiving and his yearly trip to Greenland to survey the polar bears.
That’s just the business side of things. Some personal economic effects of Obama’s new taxation policies include none other than you You know very well that over the years your grandmother and I have given you thousands of dollars in cash, tuition assistance, food, housing, clothing, gifts, etc.., etc. But by your vote, you have chosen to help others — not at your expense — but at our expense.
If you need money now sweetheart, I recommend you call 202-456-1111. That is the direct phone number for the White House.. You can also contact the White House here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/ .
You yourself told me how foolish it is to vote Republican. You said Mr Obama is going to be the People’s President, and is going to help every American live a better life. Based on everything you’ve told me, along with all the promises we heard during the campaign, I’m sure Mr. Obama will be happy to transfer some stimulus money into your bank account. Have him call me for the account number which I memorized years ago..
Perhaps you can now understand what I’ve been saying all my life: those who vote for a president should consider the impact on the nation as a whole, and not be just concerned with what they can get for themselves. What Obama supporters don’t seem to realize is all of the money he is redistributing to illegal aliens and non-taxpaying Americans (the so-called “less fortunate”) comes from tax-paying families.
Remember how you told me, “Only the richest of the rich will be affected”? Well guess what, honey? Because we own a business, your grandmother and I are now considered to be the richest of the rich. On paper, it might look that way, but in the real world, we are far from it.
As you said while campaigning for Obama, some people will have to carry more of the burden so all of America can prosper.. You understand what that means, right? It means that raising taxes on productive people results in them having less money; less money for everything, including granddaughters.
I’m sorry, Ashley, but the well has run dry.. The free lunches are over.. I have no money to give you now. So, congratulations on your choice for “change.” For future reference, I encourage you to try and add up the total value of the gifts and cash you have received from us, just since you went off to college, and compare it to what you expect to get from Mr. Obama over the next 4 (or 8) years. I have not kept track of it, Ashley. It has all truly been the gift of our hearts.
Remember, we love you dearly….but from now on you’ll need to call the number mentioned above. Your “Savior” has the money we would have given to you. Just try and get it from him.
Good luck, sweetheart. Love, Grandpa
April 11, 2010 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #1097532d aMembergetzel1, its very cute (and true) but why did you title the thread “A grandmothers view on obama”? The letter was from GRANDPA!!!
April 11, 2010 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm #1097533GetzelParticipantyou are right i tried to change it but it was to late
mayme the mod can!
April 11, 2010 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #1097534dvorakMemberVery cute. Here’s a related email that I received:
The difference between Democrats and Republicans
A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.
She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.
Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn’t really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.
Her father listened and then asked, ‘How is your friend Audrey doing?’ She replied, ‘Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2 .0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She’s always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn’t even show up for classes because she’s too hung over.’
Her wise father asked his daughter, ‘Why don’t you go to the Dean’s office and ask him to deduct 1.0 o ff your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.’
The daughter, visibly shocked by her father’s suggestion, angrily fired back, ‘That’s a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I’ve worked really hard for my grades! I’ve invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!’
The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, ‘Welcome to the Republican party.’
April 11, 2010 10:42 pm at 10:42 pm #1097535charliehallParticipantI went through the list of tax changes for 2010 and while I found several tax cuts (including one that benefitted me personally), I couldn’t find any increases. I suspect that the letter is a fraud.
April 11, 2010 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm #1097536smartcookieMemberDevorak- I like that!! That’s exactly what I feel like!!
August 12, 2014 3:29 am at 3:29 am #1097537SayIDidIt™ParticipantFunny!
SiDi™
August 12, 2014 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm #1097538To be or not to beMemberPURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else’s cows. You have to take care of all the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.
BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else’s cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and as many eggs as the regulations say you should need.
BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. After that it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.
PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.
APPLIED COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.
REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.
AMERICAN DEMOCRACY: The government promises to give you two cows if you vote for it. After the election, the president is impeached for speculating in cow futures. The press dubs the affair “Cowgate”.
BRITISH DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. You feed them sheeps’ brains and they go mad. The government doesn’t do anything.
CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.
HONG KONG CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly-listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt / equity swap with associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax deduction for keeping five cows. The milk rights of six cows are transferred via a Panamanian intermediary to a Cayman Islands company secretly owned by the majority shareholder, who sells the rights to all seven cows’ milk back to the listed company. The annual report says that the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more. Meanwhile, you kill the two cows because the fung shui is bad.
ENVIRONMENTALISM: You have two cows. The government bans you from milking or killing them.
TOTALITARIANISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and denies they ever existed. Milk is banned
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS: You are associated with (the concept of “ownership” is a symbol of the chauvinistic, warmongering, intolerant past) two differently-aged (but no less valuable to society) bovines of nonspecified gender.
COUNTERCULTURE: Wow, dude, there’s like… these two cows, man. You have *got* to have some of this milk. I mean totally.
SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.
INSURANCISM: You have two cows. The Federal regulator requires you to hold one cow in reserve because they predict a shortage of milk. The Provincial/State regulator requires you to drop the price of milk because they predict a surplus of milk. The courts deem your cows inherently dangerous and order you to provide free milk to anyone who has ever been frightened by a farm animal. The marketing people are promising chocolate milk at an enhanced commission and you discover your own actuaries have been building pricing models assuming goats instead to save on the expense line.
THERAPYISM: You have two cows. One is a metaphor for your inner child. The other is the manifestation of anger toward a parental figure. You take one of the cows on walks through grassy fields by the gentle ocean waves. The other you beat with an anger bat.
August 12, 2014 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #1097539BoruchSchwartzParticipanta 63 year old has a granddaughter who is graduation college? it’s possible but he is a very young grandpa
August 12, 2014 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #1097540MyTurnAtBatMemberYou can blame the school system which brainwashed the poor girl.
August 12, 2014 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm #1097541SayIDidIt™ParticipantA Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they came to a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person his business card and told him to come to his business for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person. The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, he decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the Republican’s pocket and gave the homeless person fifty dollars.
Now you understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats
A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered altitude and spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted to him, “Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don’t know where I am.”
The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, “You’re in a hot air balloon approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.”
She rolled her eyes and said, “You must be a Republican.”
“I am,” replied the man. “How did you know?”
“Well,” answered the balloonist, “everything you told me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to make of your information, and I’m still lost. Frankly, you’ve not been much help to me.”
The man smiled and responded, “You must be a Democrat.”
“I am,” replied the balloonist. “But how did you know?”
“Well,” said the man, “You don’t know where you are or where you’re going. You’ve risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You’ve made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and now you expect ME to solve your problem. You’re in EXACTLY the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now, it’s MY fault.
SiDi™
August 12, 2014 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #1097542SayIDidIt™ParticipantAre you a Democrat or a Republican?
Here is a little test that will help you decide.
Suddenly, an Islamic Terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you.
You are carrying a Colt Model 1911 45 cal. automatic pistol, and you have an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.
What do you do?
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Does the man look poor or oppressed?
Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?
Could we run away?
What does my wife think?
What about the kids?
Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand?
What does the law say about this situation?
Does the pistol have appropriate safety built into it?
Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?
Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me?
If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me?
Should I call 9-1-1?
BANG!
SiDi™
August 13, 2014 2:24 am at 2:24 am #1097544To be or not to beMemberand at his own murderers trial he would probably be a witness for the defense if he would somehow be brought to life… well maybe not, we all know a liberal is just a conservative who hasn’t been mugged yet
August 13, 2014 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #1097545nfgo3MemberThe opening post is probably a ginned-up phoney story from a right-wing political activist or right-wing paid operative. Does anyone think that “Getzel” has a friend whose granddaughter is named “Ashley”, wears fashionable clothing and drives a hybrid auto, which are all uniformly pricey?
August 13, 2014 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #1097546To be or not to beMemberThe opening post is probably a ginned-up phoney story from a right-wing political activist or right-wing paid operative
No, it’s a representation of the landscape of American society, and the effect certain policy decisions have on Real-world, Americans life
August 13, 2014 9:27 pm at 9:27 pm #1097547SayIDidIt™ParticipantDoes anyone think that “Getzel” has a friend whose granddaughter is named “Ashley”, wears fashionable clothing and drives a hybrid auto, which are all uniformly pricey?
S/He never said anything of the sort. It probably was an email s/he received and posted it because it was good and true.
SiDi™
August 13, 2014 10:13 pm at 10:13 pm #1097548oomisParticipantOMG, of COURSE it is a story. This is a joke that has been making the rounds. It’s meant to illustrate a point, as are all the other stories. Even when a mashal never happened, you can always learn SOMETHING from it.
I respect the right of each citizen to vote his/her conscience, but frankly, I do not get how anyone voted for Obama the SECOND time. If a prize were to be given for most vacations and golf games arranged during a presidency (and worse – during a crisis situation during a presidency), I think he would win hands down.
August 13, 2014 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm #1097549Aseh maat ve emor harbehParticipantSo in this letter, this Grandpa condescendingly talks down to his grandaughter and belittles her views and beliefs. As a result, she dismisses everything he says and continues to hold fast to her political views, even when she grows older and more mature. Meanwhile, Grandpa eventually gets old and passes away, having failed to pass his own political views on to the next generation, since he couldn’t respectfully communicate with any of his offspring. Therefore, if enough grandparents would write enough letters like this one, the Democrats would be guaranteed success for years to come.
August 14, 2014 1:21 am at 1:21 am #1097550charliehallParticipant“With the stock market crashing”
Well now we know that the story was a hoax. I looked up the stock market 4 years ago and today. The Dow Jones Industrial average has increased 62%, the Standard and Poor’s 500 has increased 80%, and the NASDAQ has increased 97%. So much for a crash.
He probably listened to Glenn Beck and put all his extra money into gold, which has increased only 8% — not enough to keep up with inflation. And like most Republicans, he probably wants a bailout from his bad business and investment strategies. Never mind that the Republicans think that Walmart putting small businesses out of business is the American Way.
August 14, 2014 1:38 am at 1:38 am #1097551SayIDidIt™Participantoomis, don’t forget fundraisers! This guy LOVES taking other people’s money!
SiDi™
August 14, 2014 1:44 am at 1:44 am #1097552charliehallParticipant” I do not get how anyone voted for Obama the SECOND time.”
Two words: Mitt Romney.
“If a prize were to be given for most vacations”
Statistics just compiled as of today on number of trips and number of vacation days as of this time in their Presidencies:
Reagan: 29 trips, 180 vacation days
Clinton: 11 trips, 84 vacation days
Bush 43: 58 trips, 349 vacation days
Obama: 15 trips, 96 vacation days
You can find this on Yahoo! News.
August 14, 2014 2:07 am at 2:07 am #1097553To be or not to beMemberBush 43: 58 trips, 349 vacation days
Obama: 15 trips, 96 vacation days
You are either intentionally trying to deceive us or you are just way to deep in the Kool-Aid .
here is the direct quote from yahoo news, guess you were too excited as to notice a small detail such as the date
As of Aug. 13, 2013, Obama is on his 15th vacation trip, covering all or part of 96 days total. He’s spending this vacation in Martha’s Vineyard with his family.
August 14, 2014 2:10 am at 2:10 am #1097554charliehallParticipant“This guy LOVES taking other people’s money!”
If you add up all the money raised by Romney and his supporters such as Karl Rove, they took in hundreds of millions more. Fortunately they wasted most of it.
August 14, 2014 2:27 am at 2:27 am #1097555👑RebYidd23ParticipantWhy should someone be a Republican or Democrat? They’re just two different kinds of stupid.
August 14, 2014 2:41 am at 2:41 am #1097556To be or not to beMemberBetter then being stupid AND not being able to make up your mind (independent)
August 14, 2014 3:35 am at 3:35 am #1097557SayIDidIt™ParticipantAs of March 2014, Obama has spent more time traveling internationally than any other president, taking 31 trips since assuming office in 2009. The 119 days spent overseas have cost taxpayers millions of dollars.
At the same point in their respective presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 116 days on 28 trips, Bill Clinton had spent 113 days on 27 trips and Ronald Reagan had spent 73 days on just 14 trips.
The actual total cost may be higher, as the White House is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act.
Frequently missing from the data are the costs of housing the first family and staff, costs of prepositioning the Secret Service and their equipment, and other travel expenses such as meals and beverages.
August 14, 2014 3:51 am at 3:51 am #1097558SayIDidIt™Participant‘By my count,’ he tweeted, ‘Obama [is] attending his 400th political fundraiser this evening on Martha’s Vineyard.’
President George W. Bush ‘had done 224 fundraisers’ at the same point in his presidency, he added.
Bush ended his two White House terms having conducted 318 fundraisers, a total Obama reached more than a year ago
Despite Obama’s association with high-dollar donor events, it’s Bill Clinton who holds the fundraising record, appearing at 638 events throughout his two terms in office.
For now, Obama is switching out his fundraising hat for his golfing cap while on vacation at Martha’s Vineyard, though.
The president played his 187th round of golf today, and it was his third time on the green since he arrived on the Massachusetts island last Saturday afternoon.
SiDi™
August 14, 2014 4:04 am at 4:04 am #1097559oomisParticipantPlease do not ever say President Reagan and Obama in the same sentence. The former WAS a leader, while the latter is most assuredly not.
August 14, 2014 4:39 am at 4:39 am #1097560SayIDidIt™ParticipantThe President sometimes travels with a 900-person, 45-car, 2 Air-Force Ones, 3-cargo plane entourage…
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August 14, 2014 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm #1097561charliehallParticipant“Bush sometimes used the property”
Right. Bush owned a ranch in a remote area. And his family also owned a big compound in Maine. That is what you get when your family is so wealthy.
Obama, OTOH, had a single house in Chicago that wasn’t able to be secured.
Clinton didn’t own a house at all when he was elected President. He earned $35K as Governor of Arkansas and lived in that state’s modest Governor’s “Mansion”.
I guess YWN commenters think that only someone from a super wealthy family should ever be President.
No wonder so many folks here liked Romney. He owned so many houses I can’t count them all.
August 14, 2014 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm #1097562charliehallParticipant“You are either intentionally trying to deceive us “
You just quoted the relevant section. Obama: 15 vacations to places he didn’t own. Bush: 51 vacations to his ranch.
51 is greater than 15.
I had secular education.
August 14, 2014 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm #1097563To be or not to beMemberYou could talk , type, and copy-and-paste from today until tomorrow. those who have drunk the liberal-topian kool -aid have a mental block to cogent thought. you could bring as many proofs as you’d like and they will chime in with the classic alinsky-ite platitudes and class warfare tactics. They are like the sheep in animal farm “four legs good,two legs bad! four legs good, two legs bad! four legs good, two legs bad!
August 14, 2014 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #1097564To be or not to beMemberYou just quoted the relevant section. Obama: 15 vacations to places he didn’t own. Bush: 51 vacations to his ranch.
No, I was quoting YOUR obfuscation of the facts. How YOU tried sliding numbers from a year ago by saying that they were “just compiled”
51 is greater than 15.
You are correct about that , but you need to look at A) the fact that you still have to factor in a years worth of vacations B)Obama is spending a lot more on his vacations C) bushes vacations were to Crawford, his house , not Hawaii , or Martha’s vineyard , and there really wasn’t that much of a difference between his regular schedule and his vacation schedule other then change of location , as the yahoo piece that you quoted states and I quote ( Bush sometimes used the property to host world leaders.) D) besides for vacations Obama seems to have a knack for ignoring world crises to go on one of his many fundraisers . (remember how bush was pilloried for saying ” now watch this drive” after denouncing a suicide bombing).
I had secular education.
Not sure where that comes in but you can be sure that we are all very proud of you ( And by the way , your secular education might have taught you that the correct sentence would be I had A secular education” not I had secular education.)
August 14, 2014 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm #1097566To be or not to beMemberOh, and one more thing you characterize bushes ranch as “remote”. don’t know where you see that I checked it up on Google maps and don’t see much of a difference between his ranch or any others in terms of remoteness
August 15, 2014 12:44 am at 12:44 am #1097567👑RebYidd23ParticipantAll places are remote.
August 28, 2014 6:53 am at 6:53 am #1097568SayIDidIt™ParticipantJust got bad news:
Being sick of Obama is not covered by ObamaCare.
SiDi™
August 28, 2014 7:02 am at 7:02 am #1097569SayIDidIt™Participant“If politics was like sports, we could ask Israel to trade us Benjamin Netanyahu for Barack Obama. Of course, we would have to throw in trillions of dollars to get Israel to agree to the deal, but it will be money well spent.”
– Thomas Sowell
SiDi™
April 21, 2015 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #1097570GetzelParticipantI just read this and started a Letter to my grandkids why did u vote Hillary?
August 24, 2015 9:58 pm at 9:58 pm #1097571skripkaParticipantsidi,i’ll be the GM. how about we will send obama AND a democrat to be named later? ( shrillary, or any other one that makes it) would tnat get israel to agree to your trade?
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