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We walked past a kapporas area today and the conditions appeared terrible.
The chickens were piled high in tiny crates sitting in the hot sun with no water to drink for hours, perhaps a whole day. Chickens were dying in their crates (we saw dead ones, and one of them looked pecked at). Dead chickens lay on the ground in a pile. It was horrific and so were the conditions.
This can’t be ok to leave animals like that with no thought to their care.
Our minhag is to use money, but I totally respect the use of chickens as well. What I find so unacceptable is allowing living things to suffer like this unnecessarily. How can they offer people the chance to do a mitzvah while completely ignoring another (Tzaar baalei chayim)?
Well, if they are gonna die in the cage and not be given to tzedaka, that’s a problem right there.
Mommamia22, how sad! I wish with all my heart that these poor creatures were treated humanely so as to minimize their suffering.
Kapporos is an unnecessary minhag altogether – even on money. It is certainly not required.
I myself haven’t done kapporos for 4-5 years. Why? Because I don’t like the idea of ‘transferring my sins’.
I believe that if I did something wrong, then I should suffer for that. I do not need any ‘atonement’. Not a chicken, but not money either. If I do something wrong, then I will bear the consequences.
Therefore, kapporos is, to me, simply of no value whatsoever and I don’t do it.
Some of these places are not legit. There was a “kol korei” posted this year, signed by Rabbonim, asking people not to go to any kapporos place that pops up on a street corner. In addition to the unsanitary conditions and the tzaar baalei chayim, the shechita is also problematic in some of these places. And kapparos is a minhag, not a mitzva. Not to say that it’s not important to follow minhagim, just saying it would more or less defeat the purpose if in doing so one is performing several aveiros. Caveat emptor!
that is outragous! Did you voice your disdain of their treatment to the owners?
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