February 14, 2013 12:18 am at 12:18 am #608202
What would you do about a local guy whom you know does not have Smicha, but was once supposedly told by a Rov who felt sorry for him, that he could lie during a job interview and say he does have Smicha just to help him land a job in a yeshiva ….and now this sorry fellow has started believing his own lie, and goes around town telling everyone he is a Rabbi, and referring to himself that way? He is an embarrassment… During the week he wears jeans and a baseball cap with dark sunglasses and a cigarette dangling from his mouth, looking like a gangster, and on Shabbos wears a kapota (with clogs on his feet) and asked the women in his neighborhood to come into his house so he can give them a Shiur! Only 2 or 3 women show up to humor him, because they feel sorry for him and his sweet wife but they snicker behind his back at his inability to even pronounce the Hebrew words he tries to quote! He is a laughingstock, what to do? He also is known to have issues with alcoholism and certain drugs, Do you lethimcontinue making a fool of himself while everyone laughs behind his back, or put him out of his misery and tell him the gig is up?February 14, 2013 1:07 am at 1:07 am #930720Oh Shreck!Participant
Pardon my questioning, is this a real situation or a set up allegory, parable you’re trying to point out.February 14, 2013 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm #930722Torah613TorahParticipant
How would this improve your avodas Hashem?February 14, 2013 3:10 pm at 3:10 pm #930723Charles ShortMember
The same argument could be made of just about any Rabbi; a smicha line from Moshe is not credible; that is why almost all Rabbonim are chicken about executing or lashing anyone. If you have real smicha, you would be bringing Dayan Emet to Amalekites; not relying on the prophesy of Thomas Jefferson to declare war and raise armies.
On the other hand, you can learn from just about anyone if the Torah is a third part to the conversation.February 14, 2013 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #930725Yserbius123Participant
Maybe you should get a “real” Rav to speak with him as to how it’s not b’kavodik do wear a kapoteh or give shiurim.February 15, 2013 12:02 am at 12:02 am #930726
A very wonderful Rov ,wo feels sorry for him, and knows of his shalom Bayis major problems (his fault for sure–is wife is a wonderful, normal, ehrliche doll), has been tring to help him stay calm, has allowed him to have a position in his daytime kollel for young college boys, which I think is Terriible because he could chas vshalom have a negative effect on these young men. He has been asked to leave several shuls because of his rowdy unstable behavior and getting drunk on Shabbos mornings, but this Rov thinks he’s helping to save him and his marriage. I believe it’s a mistake, but who am I…a simple regular guy with just my opinion.February 15, 2013 1:54 am at 1:54 am #930727more_2Member
Maybe someone should arrange for him to see a therapist could be a nice guy who means well in life but just needs to cure his sick mind…
Maybe suggest this to this rav of his.February 15, 2013 2:38 am at 2:38 am #930728ThePurpleOneMember
wow sounds tricky.. ask ur hubby 2 ask the rav to take care of it..February 18, 2013 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm #930730
He refused to go for help after he hit his wife and citied and the neighborhood found out. He thinks he doesn’t need it, very sad bu true story.February 18, 2013 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #930731rebdonielMember
He should be given help for his substance abuse and then given a position teaching or doing kiruv.February 18, 2013 4:50 pm at 4:50 pm #930732HaLeiViParticipant
Tell him to go preach to this particuar therapist. He wants to hear his Torah.February 18, 2013 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #930733Oh Shreck!Participant
In this instance the substance he abused was his wife!February 18, 2013 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #930734JayMatt19Participant
No business speaking with the man, sounds like you’d have more success speaking with a brick wall.
The real question here is why on earth would someone give someone a teaching position merely as a chessed, when it is obvious that they are quite capable of destroying lives?
Doesn’t seem like it is a concern for the wives who attend the shiur, they aren’t coming for the torah. The bigger concern here is the yeshiva guys.February 18, 2013 6:42 pm at 6:42 pm #930735rebdonielMember
How did he abuse his wife?
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