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We are living in a tight economy. People are out of work or struggling to make ends meet.
Imagine your lucky enough to have a solid job where your Non Jewish boss treats you like gold. He pays you well and on time. YOu get along great and he never pressures you in any way.
Then to your shock and dismay , you find out (for a fact) or you overhear him make a devastatingly anti semitic remark, personel to you.
Is it business as usual? Do quit your job instantly? Share your thoughts or experiences if ther are any.
why quit your job if everything is as you describe it?
Business as usual. The only difference between that boss and the next boss is one let it slip (but both feel the same way to some extent or another).
Hatizlaini na, miyad achi, miyad Eisav (please save me from the hand of my brother, from the hand of Eisav);
Sometimes he displays the “face’ of a brother, sometimes he lets his “eisav” ooze to the surface. Either way, he’s not your pal. Just take the money and watch your back.
And yes.. I’ve been there, and yes, its ugly. But that’s life in galus.
Aishes Chayil
If he treats you well it could be he had a bad day. Its hard to judge without knowing the comment and context. Either way, if hes nice to you in person, it really shouldnt matter what he thinks about Jews. Just prove him wrong by always making a Kiddush Hashem.
Business as usual. Keep quiet and head held high. Unless he told the offensive comment TO YOUR FACE, it was not intended for you to hear. Even then keep quiet because it’s a legal he said-she said issue to prove. If he is stupid enough to PUT IT IN WRITING (e-mail is writing) then you have something. People follow their prejudices and bad experiences and transfer these feelings onto other people.
Calm it down! Don’t do anything stupid and quick.
Aishes Chayil:
Good you clarified the issue.
DEFINITELY KEEP QUIET
Religion and politics are bad topics to be discussed at work, they lead to loss of productivity. Who cares about his religious views. he didn’t comment about your Jewishness so it’s NO BIG DEAL.
Business as usual. The only difference between that boss and the next boss is one let it slip (but both feel the same way to some extent or another).
Hatizlaini na, miyad achi, miyad Eisav (please save me from the hand of my brother, from the hand of Eisav);
Sometimes he displays the “face’ of a brother, sometimes he lets his “eisav” ooze to the surface. Either way, he’s not your pal. Just take the money and watch your back.
Maah –
Did you mean to add a comment, or did you like my post so much, you just decided to re-post it?
Either way is ok, I’m just wondering.
BP Totty
I meant to write it was from u.
I love when ppl debate things back and forth, while the answer, or solution, is staring them in the face.
There are many Jewish employees who do go to the Office party because in this day and age they are not celebrating a religious tradition at the office party, they are just partying for the sake of partying. And yes, they might exchange gifts, but usually it is just the boss who hands out the year’s bonuses. Again it is called a Xmas party but it has nothing to do with the holiday or the religion. If the Jewish employees show up, the organizer will make sure there is kosher food available to their standard. So if a boss expects you to be at “his” party, he is usually angry and takes offense by your absence and an employee should understand that. Just as if a Jewish boss asks a non Jew to be at his Chanuka party. If that is where the boss plans to be magnanimous and give out the gifts, you can’t slight him.
This does not excuse him for his anti-semetic comments and if he said them he probably means them on some level. However, if you have a secure job at this point, I don’t think you are doing yourself or your family or the people that benefit from your maiser money a favor by rocking the boat. Like others have said, you might be the one that teaches this man a thing or two about Jews that will alter his opinion and give him a reason to respect us and not dis us.
pride is an issue, so is parnassa, you have to choose the priority-zei gebenched
The question about “the Jews” being responsible for the death of J isn’t a joke and it often isn’t individual anti-Semitism. For many Xtians it’s a matter of religious belief, like 2+2=4, and not a personal matter at all. If he’s not saying it to your face and he’s not trying to be offensive, don’t react. It’s only recently that the Catholic Church has officially stopped holding the Jews (all Jews) responsible for the crucifixion. Xtianity was until recently openly anti-Semitic. It’s only in the last hundred years or so that many groups have become a little broader-minded.
Many of the people I went to public school with think I’m “going straight to Hell” along with all other Jews and anyone else who doesn’t “accept J.” It’s difficult to get one’s head around this sort of thing, but after all we’re in Golus. It isn’t all Xtians, and many of them mean well. Juzt make a little psychological space and don’t get too shocked.
Let me paint a similar picture, different scenario than Aishes Chayil describes. A Goy (the only one) sitting at a Jewish party and one speaker gets up and starts generalizing in a negative way about non-Jews and their religion. Imagine how he must have felt. We don’t need to imagine. He (The Italian gentleman) let us know how he felt about the speaker (and probably all Jews.). The circumstances of him and his wife being there are as follows; He is the next-door neighbor of a very close member of our family. It was a Shabbos’dige Briss. The NJ couple had the privilege of bringing the baby to Shul because there’s no Eiruv in that section of town. The speaker at the Briss, –a Talmid Chacham and very worldly person– was not aware that this gentleman is not Jewish. With his White Yarmulka he looked so very Jewish that the Gabai wanted to give him an Aliya at Mincha.
Aries 2756; In your () post you advise ACh not to quit, and through her benign actions will change the opinion of her non-Jewish boss to erase his prejudice against Jews. I’ve got news for you. And History bears this out. The removal of prejudicial thinking takes a long time of hard work and is effective very short term. From my own experience. Sometime ago I was working at a construction site. (Only Jew there.) When an electrical problem developed that affected the entire floor (Burning wire)which was caused by an illegal Irish immigrant. (A klutz, goylem, shlimazl.) I, as the junior electrician (my co-worker was AWOL.) and only representative of the electrical contractor jumped into action and fixed the problem, saving a call to the fire department in a Manhattan commercial High Rise. I was a hero for exactly 23 Hours. The next day, when a loosely attached, temporary light fixture nearly landed on some goyish/Irish nose, It was my fault and the fault of all the Jews, who, naturally killed someone 2,000 Years ago.
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