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November 6, 2024 2:37 pm at 2:37 pm #2329925👑RebYidd23Participant
Of all the common pets, a dog is the most rewarding, but it’s also the hardest to take care of. On the other hand, almost as rewarding but with much less responsibility, your friend’s dog is all around the best pet ever. But in order for someone to have a friend’s dog, their friends have to have a dog. Be kind. Adopt a dog today.
November 7, 2024 9:58 am at 9:58 am #2330395smerelParticipantNot so simple in halacha to own a dog. Even if it were when people think of “chesed” in terms of owning dogs you see why in haskafa people are so opposed to it.
(My father asked one of the major poskim in the US 50 years about owning a dog as a pet. He said that the Mishna and later sources in halacha who say you aren’t allowed to own a dog aren’t referring to American domesticated dogs but an Erlicher Yid does not have pet dogs. Before you start spewing your daas baal habos about that realize that you don’t reach his toenails in Torah knowledge)
November 7, 2024 9:58 am at 9:58 am #2330397PunkParticipantDogs are let through into the coffee room, but not updated torah questions and threads. Interesting.
November 7, 2024 9:58 am at 9:58 am #2330454@fakenewsParticipantGreat idea!
When can I (and my kids) come play with your dog?November 7, 2024 9:59 am at 9:59 am #2330506SQUARE_ROOTParticipantBava Kama, page 83A,:
Once, a pregnant woman went to bake in the house of another person.
A dog in the house barked at her, so the owner assured her:
Do not worry, his teeth were removed!She said to him: It is too late for your reassurances.
Take your favors and throw them on the thorns!
The fetus has already died.======================================
Rambam’s Hilchot Nizikei Mamon, chapter 5, paragraph 9:
The chachamim prohibited the raising of pigs, in every place,
and also dogs, unless it is restrained with a chain…
and the chachamim said:
Those who raise dogs or pigs should be cursed,
because they often cause damage..ואמרו חכמים: ארור מגדל כלבים וחזירים מפני שהזיקן מרובה ומצוי
November 7, 2024 9:59 am at 9:59 am #2330508SQUARE_ROOTParticipantYour Dog Doesn’t Love You by Rabbi Yonason Goldson
http://jewishworldreview.com/0516/goldson_pet_loving.php3November 7, 2024 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm #2330728DovidBTParticipantDogs are emotionally shallow. Intelligent people have cats.
Also, the Talmud clearly dislikes dogs:
Yoma 53b
Yoma 83a
Yevamos 59b
Kesuvos 41b
Bava Kamma 15b
Bava Kamma 79bAnd favors cats:
Shabbos 128b
Pesachim 112bNovember 10, 2024 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm #2330861commonsaychelParticipant“Adopt a dog today”, forget the dog, adopt a Troll
November 10, 2024 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm #2330923Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI’d rather be in this thread than in the one about presidential candidates.
November 10, 2024 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm #2330939World SaverParticipantIn Horayos 13a the Talmud says the reason people like dogs and not cats is because cats eat mice which have bad traits.
November 10, 2024 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm #2331021besalelParticipantThere are some serious halachic issues about owning pets. Are pets muktze on shabbos? there are two contemporary opinions. Can you walk your dog with a leash on shabbos? If you have a small dog that is low to the ground and no eruv, its not so pashut. What about food? Can you feed the dog trief is it has bassar bcholov? No. What about chometz on pesach. What about picking up the poo on shabbos? is this allowed or not? again, two differing contemporary opinions. What if your dog scares others? Its a problem in Halocho. What about castrating the dog? Not really allowed. What about tzaar baalei chayim? you also halachacly need to feed your dog before you eat. For the busy frum yid, its not so pashut. So while I agree with the OP I also understand why owning a dog as a frum yid is not so simple and its really not for everyone.
November 11, 2024 8:24 am at 8:24 am #2331372Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantbesalel, good questions on your list are:
> What if your dog scares others? Its a problem in Halocho.
of course, you should not have a dog that scares
> What about castrating the dog? Not really allowed
There are 50% of dogs
> What about tzaar baalei chayim?
hopefully, you train your kids to be nice to the dogs. Hopefully, they’ll transfer this skill to humans
> feed your dog before you eat. For the busy frum yid, its not so pashut.
well, feeding kids for a busy yid is also not pashut.November 11, 2024 8:24 am at 8:24 am #2331432commonsaychelParticipantthis is what you wrote “I am a Roman Catholic. No, no, I do not believe that Jesus was our savior nor do I believe him to be the son of God. I certainly do not believe in the Holy Ghost and, to be honest, I am not really sure what that even is. But believe me (as our President is want to say) I am a Catholic.”
so are you Jewish or Catholic”
November 11, 2024 8:25 am at 8:25 am #2331459WolfishMusingsParticipantI had two dogs growing up. I love dogs.
Alas, it’s not really possible for me to adopt one now.
The Wolf
November 11, 2024 8:38 am at 8:38 am #2331462GadolhadorahParticipantIf you are looking for unconditional love with minimal baggage, consider a goldfish. Also, consider the potential secondary opportunities in case of unrequited love including sushi and a one of the great recipes for Ungarishe gefilte fish .
November 11, 2024 8:38 am at 8:38 am #2331506maxverstappenParticipantdo you want to be picking up the mess all day ?
November 11, 2024 8:38 am at 8:38 am #2331520👑RebYidd23ParticipantA normal dog’s teeth are not a threat and hearing that the teeth were removed wouldn’t be reassuring, it would be concerning because abuse makes animals aggressive. Not all dogs are the same.
November 11, 2024 11:42 am at 11:42 am #2331686ujmParticipantThe Wolf: Why isn’t it possible currently?
November 11, 2024 11:42 am at 11:42 am #2331697besalelParticipantcommonsaychel: that was a silly post i wrote to highlight how absurd the reform claim to judaism was. i thought most people will have the common saychel to figure that out.
November 11, 2024 11:42 am at 11:42 am #2331724SQUARE_ROOTParticipantIf I remember correctly, one Rabbi said that
a Jew should not have a dog in his house,
if the dog will scare aware poor people
who come to collect tzedakah.Sorry, I do not remember the name of the Rabbi.
November 12, 2024 11:50 am at 11:50 am #2331836👑RebYidd23ParticipantI have a strong fear of the absence of dogs and I don’t stop at people’s houses if they don’t have one.
November 12, 2024 6:28 pm at 6:28 pm #2332255☕️coffee addictParticipantRebyid,
“I have a strong fear of the absence of dogs and I don’t stop at people’s houses if they don’t have one.“
You’re supposed to give us reasons to have a dog, not to not have a dog
November 13, 2024 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm #2332322SQUARE_ROOTParticipantIf you truly desire to do a great chesed,
then forget about adopting animals,
and instead adopt a Jewish orphan,
or a Baal Teshivah or a sincere Gair Tzedek.November 17, 2024 10:13 am at 10:13 am #2332642WolfishMusingsParticipantThe Wolf: Why isn’t it possible currently?
I don’t know if I’ll have the long-term health and strength to properly care for a dog. I’m doing okay now, but there are few guarantees…
The Wolf
November 17, 2024 10:16 am at 10:16 am #2332707Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantObviously, Jews, like everyone else, lived in close proximity with animals, from dogs to cows to donkeys to goats and chickens … As long as you follow relevant halochos, you can have an animal. So, the only question is whether the current use as a pet justifies the effort as much as owning a donkey to carry things justified it in previous centuries.
November 17, 2024 10:16 am at 10:16 am #2332948👑RebYidd23ParticipantSQUARE_ROOT, that may be true for me, but not for you. It’s the biggest chesed for people other than me to adopt a dog. If I did it I’d be doing it for myself. The same applies to anyone adopting a cat. Cats are wonderful but they’re mainly wonderful for their owners.
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