after hostages freed

Sadly in today’s generation we take everything Hashem gives and continues to give us non stop we take it all for granted and don’t do our Hishtadlus of thanking Hashem for everything Hashem gives us 24-7

I don’t really get the key point of this threat but here are my two cents of the future.
Hamas crushes dissent and then says we need to be in charge during a “transition” when you find other leaders to rule (which will neve rhappen bec they will bully and kill them)
Hamas hands over a few rockets but insists we need to keep weapons. After for the time being we are the only ones who can run gaza.
The UN sends a few troops as safekeeppers. They are bought and bullied by Hamas and just extra hamas fighters. No normal peacekeepers agree to go to Gaza.
Israel stays at its current lines in Gaza till hamas steps down. So for the next year or two we stay there.
Semi mild attacks against the IDF here and there occur just enough to scare us but not enough to invoke a war.
A blockade on new building and limited aid while Hamas is there occurs
The ICC, UN and other watchdogs denounce the occupiers for the suffering of Palestinians nebach stuck in tents
Free palestine protests erupt across the world
Follitals sent by Greta
The dems win the midterms and Trump becomes a lameduck
Fast forward 2-3 years later, Israel is forced to allow in cement and with draw the IDF form Gaza. Maybe it gets a little bit of a buffer zone.
Hamas now starts rebuidling its state of the art Hospitals with stronger and better tunnels
5 years later, Hamas is still there and stronger than ever.

This doesn’t mean the deal shouldn;t have been signed. We can’t fight forever. But don’t fool yourself. This is the end game

What happens is obvious: Hamas rearms and another round of fighting happens sometime in the near future, hopefully without a repeat of what happened two years ago.

We should have wiped everyone in the strip off the map or expelled them to Egypt or Jordan.

I think at the end of the day, this is a mixed bag. Yes Hamas is back sadly. But they will think twice before attacking again. Sure they don’t care and are suicidal. But they lost all their leaders even the rich cats in Qatar got a shake. Their place is decimated even for their standard. The other enemies aside for Yemen got a good clap and didn’t help them much. They will need to focus on rebuilding in the short run.
Of course till moshiach comes that’s how life will be and we aren’t safe. But the reality is its not a total loss

ZSK – The only permanent solution is מחיית עמלק which presumably won’t be an option until Moshiach arrives. “International politics” is the 70 wolves voting what to do with the one sheep… The difference is that some of the wolves are OK with doing the dirty work themselves, and some are in favor of “peace”.

@YYA – Obviously.

@AAQ – Here’s the thing: There is no actual change in leadership. Hamas, PIJ, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood and all the other various jihadist groups have the same beliefs and mindset. It’s an issue with Islam itself.

AAQ – From the perspective of Hamas this is 100% victory. They got everything they wanted:

1. Thousands of terrorists freed. That was their number one priority, as they said many times.

2. The ‘Palestinian Issue’ stays more relevant than ever, despite the Abraham Accords and growing Moderate Arab frustration with the Palestinians. This is also something they said outright that they wanted to achieve.

3. Tens of thousands of ‘Palestinians’ killed and maimed, photographed and published in dead color.

4. Almost the whole world buying their claim of genocide and justifying their actions, even on October 7.

5. Qatar and Turkey got their hooves in the door to the committee leading Gaza, which means Hamas remains in power either themselves or by proxy.

6. They got themselves killed and sent to their 72 whatever…

בקיצור, they got everything they wanted and then some. They couldn’t care less about the destruction and loss of life, including their own, because that itself is part of their goal. There is no way to defeat such an enemy other than real genocide and annihilation, which Israel can’t and won’t do, because we are NOT holding by the גאולה or אתחלתא דגאולה…

AAQ – I am not a Navi either, and we all hope to Hashem to protect us as only He can, which is the real bottom line – והקדוש ברוך הוא מצילנו מידם. The return of the remaining living hostages removed the main source of internal pressure within Israeli society that hamstrung the government throughout the war. That is why they (the elected Israeli government) see this deal as a victory. For us, the release of 20 Jewish Neshamos from the Hamas Gehennom is a big Chessed Hashem which we are very thankful for. For Trump, he thinks he will get a Nobel Peace Prize, which he won’t, because he isn’t a Leftist. This ‘peace’ probably won’t last until next years Nobel committee meets anyway… He does deserve a Nobel for the Abraham Accords alone, which he didn’t get and won’t get again because he isn’t a Leftist Progressive. But for Hamas, they see it exactly as described above. It is worth noting that the Arab mindset in general sees these things from a long-term perspective in terms of the overall situation as opposed to ‘specific actions’, and that 10-20 years of recovery time is also OK with them as long as they see themselves as moving towards their ultimate goal. This has been pointed out many times by those familiar with the Arab culture and mentality, mostly in sources published inside Israel that Americans don’t read.

“All your items except maybe (5) were present before latest negotiations.”

Item 5 was also present all along, with Qatar playing ‘negotiatiator’. Qatar is the ‘good cop’ on the Hamas side, nothing more. They have ties to extremist Islam that the West likes to ignore, and do not have our best interests, or even the Gazans’ best interests in mind. This just goes to show again that the Turkish Bazaar crooks are sharper negotiators than Trump, despite his fantasies to the contrary. Saudi Arabia and the UAE are more worried about this than Israel is, because they know their neighbors better than Bibi thinks he does, and certainly better than Trump.

AAQ – דווקא I am not for blaming Bibi or anyone else. I didn’t expect any better outcome. Under the circumstances, the deal was probably the best that could be made. Qatar’s involvement is very problematic, but more likely than not, that is what convinced Hamas to give up the hostages, because they know that Qatar and Turkey will make sure they stay in power.

I am not pessimistic at all. על פי דרך הטבע, Israel is left in the same quicksand it has always been in. The hishtadlus just doesn’t work. At best all it does is buy some more time. The only thing that can save us is Hashem’s סייעתא דשמיא. And that is exactly why Gedolei Yisroel will brook no compromise with רשעים who want to take us away from Hashem and his Torah.

AAQ – שתהיה בריא, by “hishtadlus” I didn’t mean the “Iron Dome” and such. I meant the entirety of the Israeli situation. Yes, the Iron Dome works about 85% of the time, and has enough ammo to last for a few weeks at most, as we and our enemies now know… But that too is just a temporary patch. It doesn’t resolve the core issues or guarantee anything going forward.