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Al Taamin B’Atzmecha Ad Yom Moscha
How can we take this to heart? What should we think and do in accordance with this?
one pashat
No matter how great, and straight, a person might be, he never knows how he will respond when he and his morals are tested.
every time I think I can trust myself I fail. so frustrating
Where is this line from, and how should one take it at face value? It seems very non-literal.
it is very literal. i heard the example of the kohen gadol who sinned at the end of his life all the time- whenever i hear this line. its true. trust me
i heard the example of the kohen gadol who sinned at the end of his life and you know the real P’shat in that, of course.
Practical: Do not place yourself in a Matzav of the possibility of doing an Avairah, even if you have overcome that nisayon previously. You never know what or when you will break.
“Where is this line from”
Pirkei Avos 2:5
It is possible for you to know that a certain thing doesn’t entice you and that you are above a certain behavior. You don’t have to say maybe I will get mad and hit everyone in sight, if you know that you have yourself in control. However, still don’t know where you’ll be some time down the line. It is possible to slowly slip to levels unimagined. Also, don’t trust yourself based on a strong moment.
You don’t have to say maybe I will get mad and hit everyone in sight, if you know that you have yourself in control
Chazal disagree regarding Arayos. I don’t know about Ka’as.
Ever heard of the Gemara where the Amora’im said to one another let’s go down this street where the Beis Zonos is, and get Schar?
Yes, Ein Aputrapus La’arayos, but you do know what you are holding by, and what is not a Nessayon. In fact, the Mishna says about certain situations that they are not a problem of Yichud because nobody is expected to do such stuff.
In fact, the Mishna says about certain situations that they are not a problem of Yichud because nobody is expected to do such stuff.
Yes. Non issues are not something to be worried about 9as per chazal like the gemorah kiddushin you are quoting), rather something that was/is an issue.
Ever heard of the Gemara where the Amora’im said to one another let’s go down this street where the Beis Zonos is, and get Schar?
No. I would think that it is a steerra to the gemorah that talks about “Nashim Omdos Al Kivisa” (BB 57b)
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Please tell me where the gemorah is so that I can look into it. If it exists, I have a number of questions on it (which the gemorah there may deal with).
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HaLeiVi, does the gemorah exist? Where is it?
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“every time I think I can trust myself I fail. so frustrating”
That is the reason why we Daven every morning that Hashem should protect us from nisyonos, (Velo Liday Nisayon…)
Also, it is advisable that in an area that you know you have a problem, you must put up syagim, fences. For example a food addict who has serious issues with food should NOT walk in to Walmart or some other supermarket and an addicted gambler shouldnt walk into a casino.
A”Z 17 on the bottom of Amud Alef.
Two points:
1. What you quote is the fact that one must not see inappropriate things because it will ignite his Yetzer. I merely added that there is a concept of someone knowing when something does not turn him on. Obviously, the Issurim mentioned by Chazal can not be transgressed with that as an excuse, because you are most probably fooling yourself.
The Chinuch adds that even those Amoraim, like Rav Yochanan and Reb Yanai and Reb Yehuda only did what they did when it was a Mitzva.
2. Even if something would ordinarily not effect you, by the mere fact that you are doing it even though you don’t have to, that draws you closer to Aveira. That is how I always learned the Sugya that you brought up. If there is no other way, there isn’t even a problem, not just Bedi’eved.
Either way, the fact remains the same, that if you know what you are holding by you don’t have to think that in a minute you will drop everything. When it comes to Arayos, you are probably just fooling yourself. So the concept of Al Taamin Be’atzmecha means you can’t know that you will remain a Tzaddik forever.
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