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March 11, 2016 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm #617404☕️coffee addictParticipant
When someone dies al kiddush Hashem they go under the thrones of glory
If that’s the case why do anything l’iluy neshoma?
March 11, 2016 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #1142671LBKParticipantIt can only help, so why not?
March 11, 2016 4:04 pm at 4:04 pm #1142672☕️coffee addictParticipantLbk,
How can it help?
March 11, 2016 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm #1142673WolfishMusingsParticipantWhen someone dies al kiddush Hashem they go under the thrones of glory
If that’s the case why do anything l’iluy neshoma?
Why are you making the assumptions that:
(a) under the Throne of Glory is a singular point and that variation in that grade is not possible?
(b) that Heaven is so one-dimensional that even if under the Throne of Glory to the highest possible level that there is no additional benefit available?
The Wolf
March 13, 2016 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #1142674☕️coffee addictParticipantWolfish,
When I understand the statement under the Kisei hakavod it seems like that’s the highest point, basically it’s the best thing to die al kiddush Hashem (something which rav Akiva was hoping for his whole life)
And we do it for an aliyas (going up) so if you’re at the top what other benefit is there?
March 13, 2016 1:37 pm at 1:37 pm #1142675WolfishMusingsParticipantWhen I understand the statement under the Kisei hakavod it seems like that’s the highest point, basically it’s the best thing to die al kiddush Hashem (something which rav Akiva was hoping for his whole life)
But, perhaps it’s not. Perhaps there are different levels that qualify as “under the Throne.” Why do you think Heaven is so one-dimensional?
And we do it for an aliyas (going up) so if you’re at the top what other benefit is there?
I don’t know. I’m not God and He doesn’t send me the internal memos from Heaven regarding its infrastructure. However, I would think that there is always additional benefit that can accrue to a neshoma. I would think that God can easily create an infinite system where there is always room for more reward/improvement/etc.
The Wolf
March 14, 2016 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #1142676☕️coffee addictParticipantWolfish,
I don’t understand what you mean by one dimensional, I understand it as a mountain where the top of the mountain is the highest point
March 17, 2016 2:30 pm at 2:30 pm #1142677HaLeiViParticipantWith Wolfish on this one. Completely.
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