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August 30, 2013 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm #610496YosHChayalMember
A father buys a present for his son and placed the present in a very beautiful box. Upon seeing the box the child became so overwhelmed by the beauty of the box that he took out of the present and began to hold and admire the box, while completely forgetting the precious gift inside.
The son had a mentally challenged brother who saw the box and always wanted it and so the sane brother and the mentally ill brother began to fight over the box. Meanwhile the father became furious that the sane son had not even touched the gift, but had instead focused on the box. So the father punished the sane son, but did not yell or punish the mentally ill son. The sane son complained that it was not fair that the one son should be punished, but not the other. The father replied to the sane son, “you have understanding”, while you brother does not. You should have understood that when a precious gift is presented that it is impolite and improper to ignore it. Your mentally challenged brother simply saw what you were doing and followed, but he cannot be held responsible.
If you did not realize the gift in the story is Har HaBayit and the box is the Kotel. The sane child are the Charedim and the mentally ill child is the reform and conservative. Keep fighting over the box and ignoring the gift and we will pay the price.
I challenge YWN to allow this to be published, even though it does not follow their “Hashkafa”.
August 30, 2013 2:18 pm at 2:18 pm #972668Oh Shreck!ParticipantAnd I challenge them to re-post the reply I wrote when you tried that last time:
({We are as healthy as all our Torah Leaders want us to be. To hope for the Har Habayis, to revere its kedushah by not treading on its holy soil, but to stand respectfully at the closest proximity permissible and daven. Reverently, with sanctity to HaSHem. For the true geulah. For the true Mikdash.
No, we are not retarded.}}
Contrary to what you would have us believe, the Har Habais is unfortunately off limits to Torah true observant Jews, according to most poskim. Those looking to connect to Hashem at the closest proximity, must do so while standing at the Kosel – facing the makom hamikdash. Because that’s what Hashem ordained. That is His willing. We haven’t lost focus. No, throughout our 2,000+ years of golus, we haven’t lost focus of yearning for the geulah, the bais hamikdash, the restoration of the avodah and the rule of old. To go onto the har habayis now and (pray, dance, shout, or whatever) is not coming closer to Hashem, it is NOT Hashem’s ratzon, it is one’s OWN (misplaced) willing, urge or feelings.
When we stand in earnest prayer at the Kosel, we are fighting PROPERLY for the Bais hamikdash. That is our method. Has always been.
August 30, 2013 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #972669dafyomi2711Memberyour mashal is very good but, you fail to realize the “box” (the Kotel)is all we have left of the gift. Nowadays the “box” really is precious.
August 30, 2013 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm #972670DaMosheParticipantWasn’t this story posted already last week?
ETA: Not even last week, just a few days ago:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/allegorical-story-the-children-fight-over-the-box
August 30, 2013 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #972671popa_bar_abbaParticipantOf course the posted it. The story and allegory are retarded.
It is good for our cause when our opponents write retarded arguments.
September 1, 2013 9:39 am at 9:39 am #972672This name is already takenParticipantBump
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