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Why don’t people say amen after ahavas olam before krias shema? Is it similar to semichas geula ltefila?
They do
It’s a machlokes whether to say amen. The reason to not say amen is that it would be a hefsek between the Beracha and Shema. The reason to say amen is that the beracha is not specifically a beracha on krias shema so there’s no hefsek issue.
PAA- granted that ahava raba could be a birkas hatorah of sorts. but ahavas olam couldn’t- its already nightime and you should’ve made the beracha way earlier. that doesn’t seem like so compelling logic.
It’ a Stirah in the Mishnah B’rurah.
“but ahavas olam couldn’t- its already nightime and you should’ve made the beracha way earlier”
Not necessarily. If someone slept a ‘real’ sleep in the middle of the day, then he has to have in mind that the Bracha Ahavas Olam applies to limud hatorah immediately after Ma’ariv, which he should do immediately after davening.
In order to circumvent the issue, the eitza is to say the final bracha (Ohev Amo Yisrael…) simultaneously with the Chazzan (albeit in an undertone) which protracts the person from answering Amen to his own bracha.
Rationalfrummie:
It might not be compelling to you but ayen MB 59:25. It is interesting though because even the Shulchan Aruch who says not to say amen, holds that if you davened maariv early and you repeat krias shema after tzais hakochavim you do not say the berachos precisely because the berachos are not specifically on krias shema.
Why don’t people say amen after ahavas olam before krias shema?
I do.
The Wolf
I do.
The Wolf
a groiseh raiah. you also talk during leining.
“I do.” (The Wolf)
And now I pronounce you …
Pba. I also talk during leining. I’m a baal korea…
North or South?
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