March 19, 2019 1:16 pm at 1:16 pm #1698534berry95Participant
Why do Jews still live in America? Don’t they belong in Eretz Yisroel?
Honestly asking.March 19, 2019 1:59 pm at 1:59 pm #1698538JosephParticipant
Klal Yisroel was forbidden to return en masse to Eretz Yisroel prior to the arrival of Moshiach.
Furthermore, the fact that Rav Moshe Feinstein, Rav Aharon Kotler, the Chofetz Chaim, Rav Chaim Brisker, the Chasam Sofer, the Rema, Tosfos, Rashi and so many other Gedolei Yisroel (the vast majority) didn’t, answers your question.March 19, 2019 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm #1698558zahavasdadParticipant
But many other Gedolim DID move to israel after the second world war
Before 1948 it was difficult to move there except between about 1920-1935 when it was possible, but life was hardMarch 19, 2019 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #1698566JosephParticipant
“life was hard”
It only became required when life got easier?March 19, 2019 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm #1698592lakewhutParticipant
They do but it’s hard to give up the lexus and house in the suburbs. Some think being a Zionist means you hang a flag in your Shul.March 19, 2019 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #1698816techelesParticipant
Does anyone know where in the Shulchan Aruch it says Jews are not allowed to Move To Israel in large numbers?
As far as I remember Torah authentic Judaism does not rule based on the Gemarah itself, rather there is a Mesorah we take the Rishonim and Achrnoim into consideration.
The RAMBAM, ROSH, RIF, SHULCAN ARUCH, REMA, SHACH, TAZ, MISHNEH BERURAH, ETC. DO NOT state that large number of Jews are forbidden to come back home!March 19, 2019 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #1698824jdbParticipant
Living in EY is generally regarded as a mitzvah kiyumis. This means that there are legit reasons for remaining in Chu”l, and these can be taken into account when considering whether or not the fullfil the mitzvah kiyumis of living in EY. Once one lives here, making “yeridah” is more problematic, as it’s an action of removing the status of fulfilling the mitzvah.
Practically however, we are noheig to wear tsitsis every day, which is a mitzvah kiyumis.
Regarding gedolim living in ChuL, ask them why they haven’t moved. I have asked many gedolim in America this question, in a respectful manner. The general answer is that a leader cannot abandon their folllowers. While many rabbanim have chose to make aliyah, this is a tough decision to make because of these competing pressures. Ask your Rav, it’s a serious shayla. Most families in EY, especially those who try to work, can support their families. The answer as to whether or not one should remain in America when the only reason not to move is that it takes hard work… not pashut.
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