December 7, 2021 9:32 am at 9:32 am #2038954
Can anyone suggest a hypothetical c case of antisemitism by an airline that could be successfully brought to court?
Please dont include situations where exceptions weren’t granted or the employees weren’t sensitive to religous tastes.December 7, 2021 10:14 am at 10:14 am #2038960☕️coffee addictParticipant
The gate called up the Jewish last names and said they were all denied service and didn’t provide a reason whyDecember 7, 2021 11:54 am at 11:54 am #2039004
“Jewish last name” is to deep a rabbit hole. Perhaps a different thread devoted to what constitutes a “Jewish name”?December 7, 2021 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm #2039031hujuParticipant
I have been on more than half a dozen trips to Europe and Israel in the last 15 years. I have never encountered any anti-Semitism nor have I seen frum-appearing people treated any differently than the rest of the passenger. In particular, when there has been davening in the aisles, the cabin personnel were courteous and never interfered with the daveners, and the daveners were careful not to interfere with the other passengers.December 7, 2021 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm #2039058commonsaychelParticipant
I spent my college years working for a US airline, and never encountered any anti semitism. Passengers as whole have gotten ruder and so has airline staff.December 7, 2021 1:44 pm at 1:44 pm #2039062GadolhadorahParticipant
Agree with huju….I’m a UAL 1K and reasonably high FF miles on Delta, much of it on overseas flights and cannot recall serious incidents in 30+ years that might have been construed as overt”anti-semitic” actions by iU.S. based airline crews. I have seen such incidents initiated by passengers (such as today’s news page story) but I think they were quickly defused by the airline crews and/or airport personnel. Notwithstanding recent stories about AA, etc. to some extent, and I cannot verify, these incidents seem more frequently reported on discount airlines or on foreign carriers with code-sharing arrangements with U.S. carriers. Again, I’m not saying these incidents don’t happen…just that I’ve been fortunate not to have experienced such behavior.iDecember 7, 2021 2:16 pm at 2:16 pm #2039113
Question isnt whether experienced travelers have experienced antisemitism. It’s hypothetically, what would be a clear case of anti semitism.
Personally I feel that there is a “woke” crowd of kids with disposable income who are venturing out into the big wide world, and are finding anti semites at every inconvenience because Mommy never said “No”.
But I accept that my generation may have been too accommodating, since we experienced actual antisemitism and wanted to avoid causing more.December 7, 2021 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #2039134GadolhadorahParticipant
“Can anyone suggest a hypothetical c case of antisemitism by an airline that could be successfully brought to court?
Perhaps the OP can further clarify the question. Are you talking about some sort of civil rights case against a common carrier for religious discrimination, a ‘hate crime” under federal law etc.? Otherwise, there are relatively few barriers to “successfully bringing a bringing a [civil]case to court”. The bigger question is what is the liklihood of obtaining a favorable verdict after a jury or bench trial or leveraging the lawsuit into a settlement with an airline anxious to avoid the negative publicity of a trial.December 7, 2021 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm #2039149
Good question. Fir the sake of the exercise, let’s stick with a favorable verdict, either jury or bench trial.December 7, 2021 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #2039167☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Please dont include situations where exceptions weren’t granted or the employees weren’t sensitive to religous tastes.
Why not? That would be the most likely form the antisemitism would take.
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