Any of the 2020 DNC Presidential candidates 100% against abortion (aka murder)?

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    Quayboardwarrior
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    a) Source for this?

    b) No idea what you’re argument is here. You have two healthcare systems, one a majority of users are happy with and another most aren’t. Why would anybody champion the latter? And I’ve no idea how you manage to bring Torah into this, these are contrasting healthcare structures, not ethics.

    c) I wouldn’t say vastly more limited. And if we’re to bring anecdotal evidence into this argument, I too have some firsthand experience. A friend from the UK suffered a rare condition, and the NHS paid to put her up abroad for a couple of months and receive neutron therapy.

    d) These countries may be small, but they also eat a lot of meatballs. How size (or meatball consumption) makes any difference to why their economic model wouldn’t work in the US is something you haven’t explained.
    e) If they’re failing, it’s only because they aren’t broad enough. Welfare eligibility rules are designed to encourage independence have achieved the opposite effect. For example, many states impose strict work requirements, states which loosen these rules actually see recipients move to higher wage, higher benefit work, presumably because they have the breathing room to search for a good job rather than take the first one that comes along.

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    bk613
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    d) These countries may be small, but they also eat a lot of meatballs. How size (or meatball consumption) makes any difference to why their economic model wouldn’t work in the US is something you haven’t explained.

    What works in the Nordic countries will never work here. The Nordic countries are all around 90% white Christians (of various denominations.) The cultural/racial/religious/ethnic diversity/disparities that exists in the U.S.-IMO- will never allow the same policies to be applied successfully.

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    Ben Levi
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    a) The Healthcare bill popularly know as Obamacare was passed by a partyline vote ( in fact some Dem congressmen were against it). It was designed to remake Healthcare in the US, it did.

    b) Simply stating that the vast majority of Brits are satisfied with the NHS without stating why is misrepresenting it. Yes they are contrasting Healthcare structures that lead to vast differences.
    Here are some
    1) According to Forbes in 2019 25% of patients in Britian were unable to begin cancer treatment in time, In the USA 97% of patients were alive after a prostate cancer diagnosis while in England it was 83%.
    Cataract surgery is pretty common in the US for the elderly in England it’s rationed.

    2) Doctors & Nurses have been making way less in England then the US for a while which has led to an increasing nursing and doctor shortage. Again in an article in The Week noted the British Medical Association called the NHS doctor shortage chronic. According to the guardian three quartes of the doctors it surveyed has seen medical care rationed.

    d) Size makes a tremendous difference. Smaller countries with natural resources can leverage natural resources to cover a large share of what is automatically a smaller budget i.e a million dollars of revenue from and oil reserve covers 10% of a ten million budget but only 1% of a 100 million dollar budget.
    Plus the demographics in a smaller country tend to be more homogeneous then in a large country with a vastly more complicated mix of cultures and traditions complicating National projects.
    For example the Public School system in the Lakewood NJ may be perfect for irreligous people but is horrible for religous people the result is an economic strain on a population forced to finance an expensive school system they cannot use. This of course is a much more limited problem in say Denmark where the population is vastly more uniform.

    e) You can say that it is not “vastly” more limited, however the your opinion does not change facts. And I was not proving anything from an anecdote, I was demonstrating where the hard facts ran into real life in a personal case.

    f) Can you state specifically how they are not broad enough? What should be increased? By how much?

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