April 27, 2021 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #1968768lakewhutParticipant
This is the state of the party: anti America and anti Israel.April 27, 2021 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #1968805Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
not a Dem, but here are potential arguments:
how do we know that Kerry passed the correct facts and that those facts were really unknown to Persians?
Maybe he wanted to leverage possible threat from Israel to pressure them
Also seems like the prime minister was complaining that his intelligence services were keeping him in the dark.April 28, 2021 12:25 am at 12:25 am #1968886The kneidelParticipant
Listen, you may not trust Kerry but you definitely can’t trust Zarif. Zarif is a cheat, murderer, liar, terrorist, etc. What makes you so convinced that this “leak” wasn’t staged to cause more tumult in the U.S. which could somehow benefit Iran in the Nuclear talks? You can have doubts about the words of an American who you do not like, but when it is based off the words of a known terrorist, and there is zero proof that the terrorist is being honest, I would believe Kerry over the TerroristApril 28, 2021 1:36 am at 1:36 am #1968892ParticipantParticipant
1 no proof
2 Kerry’s delusionalApril 28, 2021 9:11 am at 9:11 am #1968972kollelmanParticipant
After reading what Weinberger and Bush Sr’s father. did to Israel, nothing surprises me from the corrupt permanent bureaucracy in Washington. May Hashem swiftly and publicly punish them for their crimes as he did to Pharaoh.April 28, 2021 10:11 am at 10:11 am #1969024besalelParticipant
From what I have read, in a public setting, Israel told Iran that Israel has run hundreds of operations in Syria. Was this information not known to anyone and everyone in the world?April 28, 2021 10:34 am at 10:34 am #1969027rtParticipant
Interesting that there are actually Jews who are jumping to take the word of an Iranian official over that of an American. Besides the fact that in September 2018 Israel itself announced that it had attacked Iranian assets in Syria 200 times, no secret here.April 28, 2021 11:34 am at 11:34 am #1969032☕️coffee addictParticipant
Very telling showing we trust Iranians more than democrats
I would take the enemy you know over the enemy that pretends to like you any dayApril 28, 2021 11:38 am at 11:38 am #1969040The little I knowParticipant
Kerry has been dishonest and morally corrupt before. Hew worked for a regime that was pro-terror and anti-Israel. The revelation from Zarif was not to the media but to another Islamic terrorist. That is considered משיח לפי תומו, and there are grounds for believing it. The briefings were not just the history of events attributed to Israel, but intelligence that was unknown to anyone except those privileged to have it. If so, he was in serious violation by disclosing these secrets.
So I believe the terrorist over Kerry. I will daven that Kerry’s evil gets exposed, and the evils of the bosses whose service he was exercising. May they all be looking up at 6 feet of dirt.April 28, 2021 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm #1969045April 28, 2021 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm #1969056lakewhutParticipant
Yes you should take anything that Iran says with a grain of salt but given Kerry’s track record of being anti Israel and a globalist shill it’s definitely a credible statement.April 28, 2021 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm #1969057MadeAliyahParticipant
@rt, if all the information was well known, why did Kerry YM”S deny talking about it?April 28, 2021 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #1969067kollelmanParticipant
Check out “The secret war against the Jews by John Loftus”. Great read, but it will make your blood boil. They purposely threw Israel under the bus and caused countless Jewish deaths. The Yom Kippur war was completely preventable, as was the USS Liberty which was being used to spy on Israel and pass sensitive information to Egypt.April 28, 2021 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #1969068emes nisht shekerParticipant
The allegations make no sense (as this was not a secret at the time such a conversation would have been had, unless you have info that this conversation took place far before it was public knowledge) and seems at most Zarif is repeating what the Israel Finance Minister Israel Katz said and either confusing it with Kerry or that comment had come up in a conversation with Kerry. To suggest that Kerry somehow leaked classified info would actually require something more then this. Not sure what needs defending here.
In any case, if you are saying Kerry should be removed over a pathetically weak allegation then clearly you are of the opinion that Trump should have been impeached and convicted over his giving over info to the Russians about Israel in a major breach.
Frankly, this is a witch hunt and the Republicans should be ashamed for their despicable attempts to promote lies and smear people. Not unsurprising as this is what they always do.April 28, 2021 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #1969078
AAQ -“how do we know that Kerry passed the correct facts and that those facts were really unknown to Persians?”
Stop defending Kerry!
From the News:
“Zarif said that he was “astonished” when Kerry informed him about Israeli attacks on Iranian-backed sites in Syria on at least 200 occasions. The recording was of an hours-long taped conversation that took place last March between Zarif and Iranian economist Saeed Leylaz as part of an oral history project.”
“Maybe he wanted to leverage possible threat from Israel to pressure them”
Israel never took orders from the Obama administration.
So what kind of pressure would that be?!?April 28, 2021 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #1969082
Kneidel -“What makes you so convinced that this “leak” wasn’t staged to cause more tumult in the U.S. which could somehow benefit Iran in the Nuclear talks?”
Stop defending DemonCrats!
The leak didn’t come from Iran, but from anti-Iraning source in England.April 28, 2021 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #1969089
Rt -“Interesting that there are actually Jews who are jumping to take the word of an Iranian official over that of an American.”
He was talking to another Iranian, not to the News!
Stop defending your AZ DemonCrats!
“Besides the fact that in September 2018 Israel itself announced that it had attacked Iranian assets in Syria 200 times, no secret here.”
That was two years Later!April 28, 2021 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #1969106LostsparkParticipant
Solid post OP, this is the material I count on the CR for!April 28, 2021 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm #1969209Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Health > Stop defending Kerry!
I am not defending him, the words fit the pattern of how he talks.. just saying what potential arguments could be.
> Zarif is repeating what the Israel Finance Minister Israel Katz said
Even if info was in public domain, confirming it by an official is a big deal. It may educe a potential jail term, of course.April 29, 2021 7:06 am at 7:06 am #1969309jackkParticipant
OP: Any of the CR Dems Want to Defend Kerry?
AAQ: Defends Kerry
Health: Stop defending Kerry!
Me: Lakewhut Please layout the timeline of events from 2016 until today so that we all understand exactly what you are accusing Kerry of doing. He doesn’t need a defense until you specify what you are accusing him of.
I should start another Post but I will add it to the comment here.
Does anyone want to defend the treasonous traitor Republican Giuliani whose home was raided today by the Feds in a criminal probe ? He lied for 3 months straight about the election after lying for 3 years about Ukraine and Biden.
Or the treasonous traitor Republican Bill Barr who prevented the Feds from doing their job investigating Giuliani and even fired the US Attorney Berman ?
Does anyone see that the Republicans can be just as easily accused of treason and being traitors ?
The current Republicans are simply the rebirth of the confederacy – Proud Traitors.April 29, 2021 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm #1969550
Oh Jackk -“He doesn’t need a defense until you specify what you are accusing him of.”
From the News:
“Zarif said that he was “astonished” when Kerry informed him about Israeli attacks on Iranian-backed sites in Syria on at least 200 occasions.”
It looks like you’re getting a little Nervous, with your Rambling Post!
Yes, Kerry committed Treason by Compromising the US & Israels’ Security!April 30, 2021 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm #1969783hujuParticipant
I explained the falsehoods of the allegations against Kerry in a comment to the “news” article that reported his supposed revelation of Israeli secrets.
Any CR Reps or Cons want to defend Trump’s slavish devotion to Vladimir Putin?
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