November 2, 2016 3:04 am at 3:04 am #1188919
Apparently, the Chassidim hold that he does, at least in certain circumstances.November 2, 2016 3:05 am at 3:05 am #1188920
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It seems to me to be a joyous event, so you don’t hold of it? fine don’t do it,its not like they are hurling fastballs and making applesauce.November 2, 2016 3:09 am at 3:09 am #1188922
LF- Gofish brought an example earlier in this thread for you to respond to. I just saw it now. I have a feeling that it wasn’t approved right away, so meanwhile other posts were posted, and then no one knew that it was there.
So I am informing you that it is there so you can respond to it (so that it won’t be a LH issue that it was posted).
I have confidence in your ability to respond, and am eagerly awaiting your response (truthfully, I have no idea what she is referring to).November 2, 2016 3:30 am at 3:30 am #1188923
ZD: I suspect these people are going around, for the kicks, throwing around food. They are simply delivering from point A to point be in the most expedited, efficient manner. How else do you deliver to crowds of thousands ka”h, without causing bedlam?November 2, 2016 5:36 am at 5:36 am #1188924WinnieThePoohParticipant
Just wondering…there are many things that my very litvish outlook finds puzzling about chasidik practices, and I could never see myself being chasidish, but I don’t think that they care what I think, or what anyone else thinks. Is there toeles questioning someone else’s minhagim? They will follow their own leaders and poskim, even if other poskim disagree, which is what they are supposed to do. If the poskim want to argue about it, great, but how does it exactly change anything if some anonymous litvaks discuss how they think a particular minhag is wrong, other than to increase division among klal yisroel? I don’t think this falls under hocheach tocheach.November 2, 2016 6:16 am at 6:16 am #1188925
The above is supposed to read “I suspect these people are NOT going around…
(thinkerator slightly on the blink, blink, blink)November 2, 2016 6:28 am at 6:28 am #1188926
In looking back now, I do see a post that was once not visible.
Unfortunately I have no knowledge of the Ger minhagim, nor of the Steipler’s ruling.
About walking on the table, well I know about some guys walking completely barefoot on HaShem’s holy ‘table’.
But, you know what? WinnieThePooh is correct. I don’t have to mix my pudgy little being into great mountains. Chassidim, as opposed to common theory or speculation, have great, great shoulders on whom to rely. There’s a CLEAR answer to each and every aspect of their minhagim, kulos and chumros. No, they aren’t just a wild horde of hooligans c”v.
If it really interests you, go to each community, as take up the issues (respectfully) with a leader, Rav, or Rabbi of that community. You’d be surprised!!!
Hmm…You challenged her somewhat strongly, I’m not sure it’s fair to just say you’ve changed your mind…(just my opinion)November 2, 2016 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #1188927
WOW!! Mods, I didn’t know you mix in to our silly convos. You’re right, maybe I’ll still try. I don’t know everyone’s minhagim, so I can’t answer for everyone, but I DO KNOW that every legitimate Chassidus has broad shoulder, as I wrote. I changed my mind because I didn’t think it’s respectful that cute little i arbitrate or defend ideas and things Gedolei Olam have instituted. ??? ??? ????? ?????November 2, 2016 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #1188928
LF- the thing is that the Moderators had originally said that they didn’t want to post her “challenges” as they would be LH. You claimed that you were going to defend them, so it would not be LH (and personally, I had, and still have confidence in your ability to do so, as did the Mods.)
I understand that someone could change their mind. But I hope that you are able to come up with a satisfactory response, and if you can’t, I hope the moderators delete the post.November 3, 2016 2:02 am at 2:02 am #1188929
Uh, wouldn’t the obvious answer be that they are not against halacha according to the Gerrer Rebbe? Like anything else about which there are differences of opinions? There are many times when Gedolim disagree.
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