Arab targeting Haredim conscientious objectors, avoid Temple Mount

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  • #2073913
    Shalom-al-Israel
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    Today (26 Adar II, 5782) Arab targeting Haredim who avoid draft. IDF, conscientious objectors, and even don’t visit Temple Mount.

    Next time they tell you it’s about the so called “occupation” or their mosque in Jews’ Jerusalem (based on a which their person claimed he “visited” in his dream…) remind them such attacks.

    #2073969
    Historian
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    Their leadership in Gaza/W.Bank never rejected their Hitlerist Mufti either. The worst thing is that inside Israel the Arab leadership is on the wrong side of morality. Which US not disconnected to the last two ISIS murderous attacks, Beer Sheva, Hadera.

    #2073997
    AviraDeArah
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    Shalom, they usually go after settlers and har habayis people. That’s a fact. This is an exception, far, far from the norm.

    #2074075
    Historian
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    Avira. Hadera, and Beer Sheva were not “settlers”.

    #2074081
    Shalom-al-Israel
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    @AviraDeArah #2073997, remember the TikTok terror last year ? Way before (Guardian of Walls) It was focused on Haredim by Arab racism.

    #2074167
    Historian
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    Avira, I’m surprised that someone would even suggest that ahead of the Passover massacre anniversary…among so many r”l.

    #2074192
    huju
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    I do not understand the first 5 posts, because they are written in mediocre English. If supporters of the point of view of the first 5 posts expect to convince US politicians to support their cause, someone fluent in English will have to speak up for them.

    #2074213
    Historian
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    Huju. I guess, the OP reminded that every body knows that most Bnei Brak residents do not serve in the army, yet the Arab targeted them. And out of Halachic reasons do not visit the Temple Mount either.

    #2074729
    Gadolhadorah
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    Historian: So your saying that because they refuse to serve in the military and avoid going up to har habayis, that somehow made them legitimate targets? I don’t get your point.

    #2074738
    AviraDeArah
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    In arab propaganda, caricatures of traditionally dressed jews are common media – I don’t think they know that charedim are anti zionist. One thing neturei karta is good at is trying to change that, but individual extremists associate all jews with Israel.

    #2074799
    akuperma
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    The Hareidim can makes compromises necessary to make peace, whereas the zionists’ “red line” precludes ever making base with the Arab Muslims. The terrorists want the war to go indefinitely in the hope that someday the tide will turn in their favor. It makes sense that they attack those who would be willing to compromise on the zionist character of the state in return for peace since the last thing the terrorists want is peace, and the attacks are designed to cause the Hareidim to become more pro-zionists (not to mention that Hareidim are less likely to be armed).

    #2074778
    akuperma
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    If you are committed to a permanent war in the hopes of eventual victory (as the Palestinian nationalists are), it makes sense to attack those Jews who if in power would be inclined to make peace. The core zionist demand is that Eretz Yisrael is ruled by Jews, and any goyim therein are at “sufferance” (similar to the traditional status of Jews in Christian and Muslim countries) – which guarantees a permanent state of war with the Palestinian Muslims, since Muslims will never accept being treated the same way they have always treated Jews (racist bigots are like that – no golden rule for them). The Hareidim are more interest in autonomy and being able to have a Torah-oriented lifestyle, and unlike the zionists, would be able to “do business” with the Palestinian Muslims. So if you are a Palestinian unwilling to ever accept a zionist state, it makes sense to focus on killing those who might end the conflict (including both Hareidim, and Arabs who also favor peace).

    #2074822
    Shalom-al-Israel
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    1. “individual extremists” makes it sound as if the intolerance is not a systematic problem starting from its leadership. One look at PalWatch opens the eyes.

    2. The murderer wasa FATAH guy, not a detached “individual”.

    3. The massacre was dekdbrated by the official Fatah who know all Israelis politics.

    4. Hours before the attack, the police was informed of a drawing of PLO flag, a mosque and a swastika on Haim Lamdau street, some 10 minutes walking distance from where the Arab-Islamist butcher opened fire.

    #2074934
    ToShma
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    To OP, not bad, the subtle wording about their mosque there… at first post.

    #2075980
    Shalom-al-Israel
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    Apr 4, 2022
    Hanan Amiur (@hananamiur) Tweeted:

    Even today, especially today, against the background of the riots at the Nablus Gate, it is important to remember: “Violence on both sides,” or “Our extremists are like their extremists,” is propaganda propagated by the enemy in order to absolve him of responsibility for his crimes to the world.
    I despise those of us who echo this lie.

    #2078357
    Shalom-al-Israel
    Participant

    Related on motivation :

    ISIS “Palestinian” Islamist burcher Wassim Assayed:

    – He was looking for his victims, those that looked Jewish to him.. (Gilad Morag, Ynet, 04/14/22)

    – He said he “wanted to kill Jews for himself and for Allah.” (Walla News, 14/04/2022).

    – Method of attacks, enter appetments when door is open, slit throats.
    (Jerusalem Net, 14/04/2022)

    – Josh Breiner: The GSS is the one who recommended to the police to abandon the nationalist direction in the murder of the Kadouri couple, he was already arrested by the GSS, released and murdered again. (Arutz haKnesset, 04/14/22)

    #2078594
    Shalom-al-Israel
    Participant

    More re ISIS butcher Assayed:

    Haim Goldberg (@haim_goldberg) Tweeted
    (Apr 14, 2022):

    Listen to this shocking detail: After the terrorist Vasim Assayed murdered the Kadouri couple in their home in 2019 he washed his hands in their house, locked the door and went to sleep, he was tired. Only after a few hours did he leave their home. What a shocking attack and hats-off to the Jerusalem Central Unit and the Shabak for this insane decipherment.

    #2078727
    SAM I Am
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    The hareidim are the most identifiable group other than the IDF,as well they are iconic in their representation of Israel regardless of their religious or political differences.

    #2079847
    Shalom-al-Israel
    Participant

    Identifiable yes. Connection to the IDF, never classic. Especially by locals. Such as Arabs. And this one knew very well.

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    This is from today:
    N12, Apr 26, 22

    Bezalel: An Arab student who supported the Bnei Brak attack was removed from campus for 15 days. Arab students from the Hebrew University protested in response.

    To show is, Arab racism is wide spread. And among “moderates.”

    #2079977
    Shalom-al-Israel
    Participant

    Example:

    Infamous Sheikh Jarrah “activist” el Kurd.

    On CAMERA Apr 24, 2022, David Litman:
    “Muna El-Kurd: Jews are Zionist D#gs, and ‘Palestine’ Should Be Ethnically Cleansed of Them.”

    It shows an image of a Haredi yeshiva boy and a ‘no’-sign on him. On Dec 12, 2018, el-Kurd posted image glorified Nazi leader A.H. ym”s. Which shows that the term “zionist” is as a valid cover as neo-Nazis use the term “juice…”

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