are jews allowed to play poker with chips? (obviosly not with money)

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    yna
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    can jews play poker coz its like betting, and I’ve heard the cards are avoda zora?

    #1628126

    OTDKanoi
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    Obviously yes,like why not. Why would cards be avodah zarah!

    #1628176

    ubiquitin
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    “like betting” isnt betting.
    Though its worth pointing out, Even betting isn’t assur. (though it might be a waste of money, but that is arguable and if you enjoy it then it isnt a waste.)
    What is assur is collecting money that other’s give to you. In other words if you bet and lsoe, the guy who takes your money is stealing (miderabnanon) or if someone bets against you and loses, you are stealing by taking his money.
    (In fact, using chips might actually avoid the above problem of asmachta lo kanya since arguably once youve purchased the chips that’s like putting the money on the table in which case it is no longer an asmachta. But this last point is debatable .)

    “I’ve heard the cards are avoda zora”
    Ive heard the moon is made of cheese, that doesn’t make it so .

    #1628261

    laskern
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    The Rambam says that as a profession is assur because because he is waisting his time and not being involved in the need of society.

    #1628292

    laskern
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    Maybe because of mesackek bekuvya. The Rambam says as a profession because he spends his time frivilously and not does not care about social needs.

    #1629130

    Athos
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    it is muttar with money.

    #1629215

    BillyW
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    Its ok as long as everyone buys chips at the beginning.

    #1629553

    WolfishMusings
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    If the chips merely represent points, why would it be different than playing Scrabble or any other point based game?

    The Wolf

    #1632070

    ahron
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    why are you asking about poker if cards are “avoda zara” why not go-fish

    #1632259

    yitzchokm
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    I think he’s worried about the card design

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