Are Law abiding minorities affected by police racism?

I would say racism doesn’t exist but blacks have high positions in Police Departments. The problem is resisting arrest, if Floyd hadn’t he would have been taken to the station processed and given a desk appearance and out within an hour or two.

shady

“No, law abiding minorities are affected [primarily, albeit indirectly] by NON-law abiding minorities.”

so your answer to the OP is “yes” Just you argue that it is not the fault of the police, The police have to treat all law abiding minorities as suspects because of the non-law abiding minorities.

There’s very little anti-black racism in the police forces. Not much different, in fact, proportionally than anti-white racism.

But to whatever extent it exists, it isn’t racism per se. It is more anti-criminal. If criminals proportionally are much more likely to be male than female, police officers are much more likely to suspect males of crimes than they will suspect females. That does not make the police misandrist or anti-male. If criminals proportionally are much more likely to be black than white, police officers are much more likely to suspect blacks of crimes than they will suspect whites. That does not make the police racist. If criminals proportionally are much more likely to be younger than older, police officers are much more likely to suspect young people of crimes than they will suspect older people. That does not make the police ageist or anti-young.

ABSOLUTELY……………………..law abiding minorities are affected by police racism

I live in small town CT. It is 85% white.
Our cops are notorious for stopping black drivers who cross the town line. Usual excuse…’you have a tail light out. They humiliate the driver, pulled to the side of the road for all to see, call in two additional patrol cars. After running the license plate and drivers license and finding no wants and warrants, they say, your tail light is working now, but wasn’t before. You need to have it checks by a repair facility.

The actual truth: The driver was stopped for DWB. DRIVING WHILE BLACK

A few years ago our town was cited (along with many others} for this racial profiling.

My wife grew up here. She told me there were only three black families in town when she was growing up. I listened to a 55 year old member of one of those families at a recent symposium on out police racism. He is a Yale graduate and a local physician. When he was growing up, police would stop him all the time, asking why he was in the area. His father was followed home by a patrol car one night right into their driveway. The cop pulled a gun and wanted to know what right dad had to be on private property in town. The father replied, I own this house and live here.
Because the requirement to be a police officer are so low, it often attracts gun happy, racist red necks. All you need is to be 18 years old, have a high school diploma or GED, pass the easy entrance exam and then 16 weeks at the state police academy. Many positions go vacant and towns desperately hire any who apply and pass the background checks of no felonies or major misdemeanor convictions.

Untold amounts of money has been paid out by area police departments who have lost race discrimination lawsuits.

BTW>>>Driving While Hispanic is almost as dangerous

1. Ask about the experience of frum travellers crossing borders who are often suspected of smuggling.

2. Arguably police stereotyping is based on class. Police tend to be respectful of well dressed, well educated, polite persons regardless of race, and tend to beat up poorly dressed, ill educated and especially rude persons no matter what they look like. While this makes perfect sense to a sociologist, a lawyer will point out that under American law the police aren’t allowed to beat up people, even if society thinks they deserve. Stereotyping strangers is normal human behavior, even if it is illegal and unfair to the person be stereotyped.

of course there is going to be a few racist cops, just like there are a small percentage of racist civilians. but in general minorities are not affected by racism, either from citizens or from police!

ct lawyer: minorities are affected by racist lawyers, because were i live there are racist lawyers that don’t take clients that are black or Hispanic, and if they are prosecutors they will specifically take cases against blacks or Hispanic

Schnitzel: You have the right to have any opinion, however wrong it may be.

Do you believe it is sexist for police to suspect or stop men more than they suspect or stop women, when searching for suspects or looking for crimes in progress?

Do you believe it is ageist for police to suspect or stop young people more than they suspect or stop the old people, when searching for suspects or looking for crimes in progress?

@som1
You post has nothing to do with the topic of this thread: :”Are Law abiding minorities affected by police racism?”

This white, Jewish lawyer has had black clients as long as I’ve been in practice. If the client has enough money to warrant, a trust, adoption, divorce, guardianship, child custody or any other part of our practice, then the only color that matters is GREEN…can they afford our fees? We are a for profit law firm. We do XXX hours of pro bono work per year, usually child custody or parental rights cases as assigned by our local Probate Judge. In a mostly white community, most clients are white.

We do not practice criminal law or personal injury or medical malpractice or landlord/tenant/housing cases.

Unlike NY, CT does not have District Attorneys. We have States Attorneys who prosecute cases. They are NOT elected (like a DA in NY) and don’t get to choose to take cases involving minority defendants. If a States attorney is assigned to a specific courthouse, the senior States Attorney and clerk assign most cases based on workload availability. The exception are major felonies which go to the most experienced trial attorneys in the office. Every few years the states attorneys are rotated geographically. So after spending three years in a city court with majority of minority defendants, they may find themselves in a rural court that almost never sees a minority defendant,
Also, different is that we do not have a Grand Jury system to issue indictments in CT. The police make their case to the states attorney, and he/she decides charges and whether to prosecute.

harvard call a rav if you cant get through to haimy

AJ: If an at-large violent suspect or kidnapper being sought by the police has a known description of being a black male, 6 feet and 3 inches and between the age of 25 and 35, then there is no reason for officers to pull over females, people age 50 or older or whites.

@Shady
The finding of racial profiling and stops for Driving while black was found by the CT courts to be systemic racist policy of the police department in many towns (including my own). It is not my anecdotal observation. The departments were fined, ordered to institute new policies, Required to retrain officers and to wear and use body cams.
A number of top brass were forced to resign or take early retirement because they had instituted this racist profiling as part of department procedure.

Gender profiling of those Driving While Male (DWM) and age profiling of those Driving While Young (DWY) is far more systemic biased policy than any allegations about so-called DWB. Men are pulled over much more disproportionately as are those who are young.

But since there’s no political brownie points to be earned by left-wing politicians and media potato heads in pointing out the DWM and DWY realities, they rather try to stir race wars by focusing on race issues to maintain their ownership of the black vote.

ct lawyer your not naming any policy.
and the argument that blacks are arrested 4-5 times more then whites percentage wise, isn’t saying anything because they also commit 4-5 times more crimes then whites!!

som1: America elected a black President by a clear majority vote two consecutive times. Systematic racism doesn’t exist in America.

catch yourself – yeh i do!!
what percentage of Americans do you think are racist??

CTL

Pretty disgusting when you act as if you are superior to other posters.

For some reason the hot shot lawyer that keeps on mentioning that you charge a few hundred dollars per hour, takes the time to respond and argue with random online posters.

Not an activity one would expect from the type of person your trying to portray yourself as.

Like you think someone cares about the prep for a zoom meeting that occupied your day, stop playing like your better than the next guy.

The next guy might have been involved in more worthy activities than those of yours, who cares.

Did New York State really make it a hate crime to call the police that a “black person is acting suspicious etc.”?

Rayshard Brooks grabbed a Taser gun from a policeman and attempted to shoot the officer with it. The Atlanta police officer shot him in response. Now the BLM rioting thugs burned down the store this happened in front of and are blaming police again for defending themselves from a violently attacking criminal.

This isn’t racism. This is the proper police response. But in order to appease the rioters, the Atlanta police chief was forced to resign, the police officer who defended himself was illegally fired and the DA is already promising the riotera to charge the officer before his upcoming primary election, and even the second officer at the scene who didn’t shoot in self-defense has been suspended in order to appease the mobs on the streets.

“a major problem in the inner cities are the teachers unions”

If we were to partner with the parents of minority students who are stuck in lousy inner city schools, we might finally repeal the Blaine Amendment, raise taxes, and fund private schools. But why would they want to work with a community that blames them for racist practices by police, as seen here in the comments?

2scents -“At this point, I really do not see why someone would focus on a law enforcement career”

It depends where. In Minneapolis there won’t be PD. A lot of other Lib cities will follow suit.
This will cause many to Leave Inner Cities. Not just whites, but even Law – abiding Minorities, including the Blacks!