Are there filters that connect to the router instead of individual computers?

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  • #603604
    AZOI.IS
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    I hear most filters have to be installed on each individual computer.

    I hope there are filters that can be connected directly to the internet connection.

    Hopefully there is, because there can easily be computers in a home connecting through one router that one is not aware of, which can then easily surf the net without any filter at all.

    #877189
    gavra_at_work
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    Barracuda, iPrism.

    As an FYI, the problem with such a filter is that your children can simply disconnect it and reconnect the unfiltered internet.

    #877190
    akuperma
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    Such filters are widely used in places such as Iran and China, and could be used for a home network. The problem with filters is that they aren’t clever enough. For work, I had to research the legal status under halachah of child born to a woman who had been become pregnant while being help prisoner, and the filter saw a naughty word (R-A-P-E) and blocked the search. If you block the word A-B-O-R-T-I-O-N, you’ll block research about pro-life groups, or mutual funds that don’t buy stock in companies that make a living by providing the drugs and tools needed.

    The best filter is the user having sufficient intelligence and yeras shamayim not to look at what they know they shouldn’t look at, and in a home or office or library, to have all computers facing “out” so the screen is visible (if you need privacy, you probably shouldn’t be looking at it).

    #877191
    Bobchka
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    open DNS works very nicely

    #877192
    Naysberg
    Member

    Baruch Hashem, it is such a gevaldike pleasure to see how much filtering has been increasing in Klal Yisroel ever since the Kinus.

    #877193
    working
    Member

    If you are using a wireless router, you can put a password on the router to limit the computers that connect to the router.

    #877194
    AZ
    Participant

    Devices with WiFi capabilities will circumvent any internet connection/router based protection (such as Yeshiva Net).

    Disabling the wifi would solve this problem for those who do not need the wifi capability, or at leaset on the devices that don’t need such capability.

    Devices with wifi would require software on each individual device to ensure proper protection.

    This is my limitied knowledge.

    For more effective guidance contact TAG (Technology Awareness Group) at

    718 437 1TAG

    718 437 1824

    I don’t think they charge.

    (i am not part of TAG, but i do know the name of one of the people inolved).

    #877195
    AZOI.IS
    Participant

    gaw, “your children can simply disconnect it and reconnect the unfiltered internet”

    What about if I lock the room where the router is? Have I solved that problem?

    I just looked into Barracuda and they are meant for corporations and cost thousands. They have a division called Cloud thats much smaller and different.

    Someone said Iprism has a waiting list.

    Any other router based internet filter? In my home, as in many others, there are computers coming and going. A filter on any one or two computers is useless.

    #877196

    opendns has the option.

    #877197
    TheMusicMan
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    If you would like something like that it’s best to get a filtering plan from an ISP like Jnet, which filters even before the router, making access through your own line (almost) 100% filtered. Of course, you should STILL apply a good filter at the browser level to keep people from bypassing the ISP filter using https. You should also lock up Wi-Fi devices to keep people from using them to connect to other networks, particularly iPod Touch-like devices. Plead with your neighbors to lock their Wi-Fi with a good WPA password, just in case someone brings their own device from somewhere.

    #877198
    2scents
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    there are a lot.

    However in your case, i think that the best idea would be OpenDNS.

    cost is very minimal. and you program your router to use their DNS.

    you must make sure that.

    A) your children dont have access and the ability to log onto the router.

    B) they dont get their own router and bypass your filter.

    #877199
    bygirl93
    Member

    Can someone please post info on where I can find more info about opendns

    #877200
    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    opendns.org. They are free for home networks and are open source. Anyone who knows anything about DNS and takes internet safety seriously might want to consider contributing to the project.

    #877201
    AZOI.IS
    Participant

    I looked at opendns.org

    How do I block or allow specific sites from my router (and not from a specific computer with a keyboard that would filter only that specific computer) if I cant type names of websites on the router to block or allow?

    Can someone please explain how this works from the router?

    #877202
    2qwerty
    Participant

    Set your router DNS to:

    208.67.222.222

    208.67.220.220

    Then go to opendns site and click on dashboard to change your settings.

    #877203
    oomis
    Participant

    I find it ironic that the last time a big gedillah was made over “filters” it was because of copepods.

    #877204
    AZOI.IS
    Participant

    2qwerty, thanks but Im not tech savvy enough to know how to set my router (I think my router is verizon westell). Theres no numeric choices on it.

    Who do I deal with if I cant pay a bill at 2 am if Im not dealing with a company w good cust service- this sounds like a tech savvy-friendly self service sitch to me.

    #877205
    gavra_at_work
    Participant

    Who do I deal with if I cant pay a bill at 2 am if Im not dealing with a company w good cust service- this sounds like a tech savvy-friendly self service sitch to me.

    I imagine that TAG will come to your home and set things up for you (I have no idea either), assuming that you live in town. AZ can probably give you the number.

    #877206
    dash™
    Participant

    Barracuda, iPrism.

    As an FYI, the problem with such a filter is that your children can simply disconnect it and reconnect the unfiltered internet.

    This type of filter can usually be setup to send an alert email if it detects tampering. Also they can either be setup as fail-safe or fail-secure. In fail-safe mode all traffic is unfiltered if the filter is offline, in fail-secure mode all traffic is blocked.

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