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  • #1143602

    Joseph
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    ubiquitin

    White House webpage: “Linda Douglass of the White House Office of Health Reform debunks the myth that reform will force you out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.”

    White House webpage: “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

    #1143603

    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    Joseph…….

    Literalist? or interested in truth?

    You didn’t tell me a million times, or a thousand or a hundred or even 10.

    I am an attorney, I have to deal with facts and the law. (BTW I’m not a trial attorney, so testilying isn’t an issue).

    #1143604

    Joseph
    Participant

    NPR, August 2013:

    Despite promises by President Obama that people can keep the insurance they have once Obamacare is in full effect, millions will have to upgrade their policies to meet the benefit standards laid out by the Affordable Care Act. The measure will be in full swing this January.

    #1143605

    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    Joseph,

    Congratulations, something not made up such as promising on his dead mother’s life.

    BTW>changes vary greatly by state and insurance carrier. Not all states set up health care exchanges. I’m thrilled CT did. I’m saving more than $600 per month with the same carrier and an improved policy with the same co-pays. Then again CT is the insurance capital of the US

    #1143606

    ubiquitin
    Participant

    Joseph

    In none of those quotes does he swear on the life of his mother….

    also you havent answered my question. (As usual)

    syag, fair enough.

    although,

    “That is telling us that the new program that YOU are introducing, is INCLUDING the option of keeping your doctor.” He also made clear that certain bare minimum plans would be banned. This is a direct contradiction to the first line you quote. And at the time nobody called him out on it. becasue it was obviously hyperbole until it becme a talking point.

    #1143607

    homer
    Member

    The president said many many many many many many many many many many (ad infinitum ad nauseum) times. . . . . .

    Oh whatever, Machala sheayn bo refuah but its entertaining

    one word that comes to mind when I say a word

    Obama=Liar

    Biden=only in America 🙂 (ok 3 words)

    Clinton=Liar (emails that she knew nothing about anyone?)

    Sanders= Socialist

    ok CTlawyer your turn

    And Matan do your own research please

    #1143609

    Matan1
    Participant

    Homer, you made the claim, you provide the evidence.

    #1143610

    charliehall
    Participant

    Joseph has given us two pants-on-fire lies in this thread. Firstly, Obama didn’t swear anything, especially not on the life of his mother who had been dead for over a decade. Secondly, he claimed that National Socialism in Germany represented a political triumph of socialism. In fact, every actual Socialist in the Reichstag voted against giving Hitler dictatorial powers, and every non-socialist voted in favor. Within a few months, essentially every Socialist politician in Germany was either dead, in hiding, in a concentration camp, or in exile.

    How any Jew can confuse the people who were on our side, with those who tried to exterminate us, is beyond me. Either Joseph is a total ignoramus, or an anti-Semite masquerading as a Jew.

    #1143611

    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    Homer>>>>>>.

    I’ll keep it brief (few words)

    President Obama….elected and re-elected

    VP Biden…great supporting actor, not a headliner

    H.R. Clinton…too much baggage

    Sen. Sanders….Mentsch, but it doesn’t play in Peoria

    17 Republican aspirants….Circus Clowns, Foot Eaters

    USA—seeking a true leader

    There is still one year until the political conventions, maybe there will be a yet unannounced candidate who appears to save the day

    #1143612

    homer
    Member

    CT I do agree most Rs are a joke but there are a few that are very serious excellent candidates no?

    Whats your take on Rubio or Kasich?

    Carson, a smart man and dont say that hes never held office I think thats exactly what we need. weve had the same for years and years and their all rotten. Time to shake things up.

    Fiorina also looks good. Listen to her talk I believe you will be impressed.

    Cruz is another good candidate.

    There are serious contenders whether you agree with them or not. To call them all circus clowns is just showing your partisanship will blind you to any serious conversation.

    I do agree Sanders is a mentch but. . . a socialist.

    And while you do have a good excuse for your partisan leanings as your from CT, so am I so. . . .that excuse doesnt hold water 🙂

    #1143613

    homer
    Member

    I forgot to mention Walker, also a great candidate. But here comes the hate because of what he did to the unions. But hes done a great job in WI.

    I would hope for a serious candidate from the Ds but so far . . .

    Biden is such a joke that the fact that hes your hope to save you from HRC is extremely telling.

    Matan: Take a look around the world, and read a little history, not so much research is needed.

    #1143614

    Joseph
    Participant

    It is funny how liberals have no sense of humor. The reference to Obama’s white mother was an obvious gag.

    #1143615

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Excuse liberals for not thinking joking about someone’s dead mother is appropriate.

    #1143616

    charliehall
    Participant

    Florida was one of the worse CEOs in American history. While she atop Hewlett-Packard, her shareholders lost 62% of their equity. And while Republicans don’t usually care about jobs losses caused by corporate incompetence, she did fire tens of thousands of people.

    #1143617

    charliehall
    Participant

    Walker is a one trick pony. All he knows is that he hates labor unions. He has given three responses on the issue of birthright citizenship in the past eight days. Heaven help Israel were he to get elected when he realizes how strong labor unions are there.

    #1143618

    homer
    Member

    Charlie lets stick to the real issues here. Birthright will be decided by the courts if it has not been already (see the Constitution). . . .so next. Thats your IMPORTANT issue of the day?? C’mon. The fact that Walker is a politician I dont deny.

    I dont know how HP was doing at the time so I need to hear the WHOLE story. I know in D land if you lay off workers automatically your an ogre, but hey sometimes thats what a company needs to do. Again I need the whole story.

    But she sounds like a regular person who has good ideas.

    Thats becoming my number one qualification for politics these days. EVERYONE else my ENTIRE life who is, sounds, and becomes a politician has failed miserably. This country is in shambles and its both parties fault!

    Where do you think someone like Trump can gain such a groundswell of popular support. Romney was rich and that contributed a lot to his failure. Trump is many more times richer but he sounds like a person youd BBQ in the backyard with. Romney? no way, and he sounds like and is a politician, Therefore doomed.

    Unions? take a look what happened to unions in WI, MI, and IN the recent states to pass ‘right to work’ legislation.

    When given a choice people reject unions time and again. There must be a reason for that Charlie.

    Please explain to me why when given a choice unions are ALWAYS dropped.

    And while your at it please explain to me why the places that are such union and liberal democrat strongholds are the worst of the worst in social, economic, and just about any other factor youd like to analyze.

    Republicans are not the answer, but their side has the more impressive lineup in this color war.

    #1143619

    homer
    Member

    Ask CTlawyer about CT itself, once a great state in economic terms. Now Ha! the place is falling apart. And whats our esteemed Governor’s plan. (after passing the largest tax increase in state history btw) Hes going to raise taxes again!!

    Genius plan!! Thats the Ds playbook always. Tax tax tax rich rich rich not paying their share again again again again . It never works. Just turns my state into a place no business or entrepreneur will touch with a ten foot pole.

    #1143620

    Joseph
    Participant

    The better question is how it is accepted that a gentile masquerading as Jew based on a phony avi weiss/haskel lookstein type conversion is permitted to consistently attack basic Jewish values using sophistry to push liberal values anathema to the Torah and Yiddishkeit.

    #1143621

    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    Homer…

    One party rule doesn’t work. It doesn’t work in Hartford or in my unnamed little town with Republicans holding all the power.

    Only in a split legislature where compromise is necessary do we achieve good government.

    When I was young, CT legislators were part-time, they met every other year and set a 2 year budget and it worked.

    I want term limits, not long term professional politicians feeding at the public trough

    #1143622

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Who’s Florida?

    #1143624

    homer
    Member

    CTLAWYER completely agree on term limits!

    It should be a constitutional amendment. That along with a balanced budget amendment. ( yeah right not in our lifetimes)

    Speaking of one party rule and compromise, somehow ‘GRIDLOCK’ became this evil scary word. The founders intended gridlock, it is actually a FEATURE of our governing system.

    You are so right “professional politicians feeding at the public trough” they dont care about whats good for the country or what the RIGHT thing is to do. (See the Iran vote)Its all about staying in lockstep to move up the food chain when its MY turn.

    Thats why this is all for entertainment purposes.

    🙂 Its fun to watch people begging Biden to run 🙂

    (Charlie I was hoping you could explain those things I asked above)

    #1143625

    nishtdayngesheft
    Participant

    Typical of Charlie. He thinks Fiorina is bad, because she cut costs to keep a company afloat. On the opposite, he thinks Carter was a good president. A president that was a disaster for the American economy. A president who’s foreign policy left the US a laughingstock.

    To Matan1, you wanted proof that democrats are “Machala sheayn bo refuah “? Just look at the democrats who post on this site, you cannot get stronger proof.

    #1143626

    nfgo3
    Member

    Carly Fiorina was fired by the Board of Directors of Hewlett-Packard because of several years of losses under her administration. If you want precise numbers and an explanation by the company’s management of the reasons for her dismissal, you can review the SEC filings of Hewlett-Packard. If you think she is a good candidate for president because of her business acumen, think again.

    #1143627

    homer
    Member

    nfgo3:Not because of her business acumen, just because she is a regular person.

    Try listening to her. I never heard of her a month ago, and I’m not trying to be her champion(shes not my first second or third pick).

    But I listened without a preconceived bias and she sounds like a common sense person. And we know common sense is not so common anymore, especially in politics.

    Nisht: All you have to say is that he thinks Carter was a good pres. . . . .

    :):):):):)

    But its fun to watch the Biden run gearing up. The great savior HA! only in America.

    Just saw WH spokesman say Obama’s GREATEST political move was picking Biden as VP. Absolutely true.

    🙂

    The one guy in the room who makes the P look good.

    🙂

    #1143628

    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    It’s now 5 months since my last post in this thread.

    Yesterday CT Secretary of State Denise Merrill announced the candidates who have qualified to be on the ballot for the Presidential primaries in Connecticut.

    Democrat: Clinton, Sanders

    Republican: Bush, Carson, Cruz, Kasich, Rubio and Trump.

    The primary election opened to registered members of the parties ONLY will take place Tuesday April 26, Chol HaMoed Pesach.

    I usually vote absentee, my shinuii will be to vote in person. I not only get to vote in the Democratic Primary, but will also be a delegate to our State Democratic Convention.

    I have not yet made up my mind. I’d like to see which additional Republicans drop out of the race before deciding. Ideologically I am closer to Clinton. I have met both candidates personally, knowing Pres and Secy Clinton since their days at Yale Law School and Sanders since he was Mayor of Burlington, VT.

    I will vote for whichever Democrat I consider to be a stronger candidate against the remaining Rs.

    All in all, I’d prefer Bloomberg get into the race……….But it won’t happen.

    #1143629

    homer
    Member

    🙂

    Oh what fun it is

    #1143630

    oyoy
    Member

    Why would anyone vote for Democrats?

    Hilary Clinton is a criminal

    Bernie Sanders is a extereme left wing socialist

    #1143631

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Oyoy,

    Some people like to be taken care of, and others like the concept of taking care of others

    #1143632

    nfgo3
    Member

    Well, the South Carolina and Nevada primaries have come and gone, and so has Jeb Bush!, Carly Fiorina, Chris Christie and some other guys I cannot remember.

    So for you Republics (if you think the party I support is the Democrat party, then you are a Republic; and if you think I am a lib, you are a con), your choices are two Latinos, one Latino-bater, a comparatively nice guy from Ohio, and a brain surgeon who sounds like he removed his own brain. So, tell us what ails America, and what these guys say they will do to fix it. And I don’t mean “make it great,” I mean, what policies will they implement, what kind of supreme court justices will they appoint, what will they do about taxation and spending, falling bridges, Zika virus, climate change, and America’s role in Syria, Israel and the rest of the Middle East.

    How many US troops should die defending, or attacking (pick one – or both) the Syrian dictator? How much should we spend on wounded US veterans – enough to make their lives livable, or just enough to fund a nice tax cut? I would like a tax cut, who wouldn’t?

    #1143633

    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    nfgo3

    Wish you’d get your facts straight.

    The Republicans had their South Carolina primary this week. This thread is addressed to Democrats who will hold their South Carolina Primary Feb. 27th.

    There was no primary in Nevada. The Democratic Party held caucuses in Nevada this week.

    As I posted above. Jeb Bush will be on the ballot in the CT Republican primary. Just because he announced he was suspending his campaign doesn’t take him off the ballot. Should he win any delegates, they will be his to horse-trade at the national convention this summer.

    That said, the Republican Presidential wannabes are quite lacking in what it takes to lead this country

    #1143634

    Joseph
    Participant

    They may be lacking but the Democratics (thanks for the correction nfgo) are dangerous. A danger to the country and a danger to the world.

    #1143635

    oyoy
    Member

    Vote for steve d. kelley. Hes running independent

    #1143636

    nfgo3
    Member

    To CTLAWYER: My facts are fine, and your nits are not worth the picking. Jeb Bush dropped out. That he is still on some ballots is not going to drop him back in. We both got the important fact right – the Republican party does not have a candidate fit or capable of being president. I’m not crazy about the candidates of the Democrats’ party, but at least they are not crazy.

    #1143637

    Joseph
    Participant

    They’re dangerous. Dangerous is worse than crazy. Trump is crazy. But even Trump is better than any of the Democratic candidates. Thankfully Trump is unlikely to be nominated thus the nation will be able to elect an outstanding patriot such as Marco Rubio.

    #1143638

    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    nfgo3

    Part of the function of this forum is to educate its participants, that’s why I pick nits when it comes to nomenclature and facts.

    A caucus is different than a primary. Most states have primaries.

    Suspending a campaign is not the same thing has dropping out of the race (which likely will occur). The campaign committee can still raise funds, advertise, etc and is dormant but could be resurrected should the Republican Convention be deadlocked and decide that Bush would be a better compromise candidate than the leading 3.

    It also keeps the time requirements for reporting at the the longest legal length.

    I just came back from a Democratic multi-town committee meeting here in CT. Our current State Senator (from a neighboring highly minority city) asked that we hold a fundraiser in our town next month as he/she would not be facing a primary. The senator was told we’d consider it. After the Senator left the room, a potential candidate who had suspended his run for the nomination 6 weeks ago presented enough petitions to force a primary.

    Strange things happen in American politics. The Chicago papers published Dewey defeating Truman in 1948……………..

    #1143639

    nfgo3
    Member

    To CTLAWYER: That famous, erroneous headline, “Dewey defeats Truman …” is not an example of strange politics. It is an example of bad journalism.

    Otherwise, your comment is spot on. One nit I wish to pick: Nearly every (if not all) Republican candidate who has quit the race has “suspended” his/her campaign, not actually dropped out, largely for the reasons you give, but also to kid themselves and their donors. But so far, they all remain in suspended inanimation. And the Trump train appears to be running away to the Republican nomination.

    #1143640

    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    nggo3

    The Dewey reference is to show that we can have unexpected results

    That is what may be strange in politics…there is no sure thing. Many a racehorse has stumbled approaching the finish line

    #1143641

    squeak
    Participant

    Crazy is what we need in these times. We know the muzzies are crazies. If they don’t think that the head of the serpent – the man with his finger on the button – is crazy enough to press it, then we have no chance of defeating them. It’s why they’ve flourished so under Obama.

    #1143642

    nfgo3
    Member

    Re Squeak’s comment, “Crazy is what we need ….”

    Your last sentence implies that President Obama is not crazy. That is a refreshing thing to read on this web site.

    I have never heard or read about “muzzies,” but from the context, my only guess is that it is your self-made ethnic slur for Muslims. Please correct me if I am wrong. And if it is an ethnic slur, I am surprised that the YWN moderators would allow it to be posted.

    As for the flourishing of Muslims under President Obama: I am not sure all of them have flourished, given the drop in oil prices, or the strife in Syria and Yemen. Perhaps you could tell us what indicia indicate to you that Muslims – or whoever the “muzzies” are – are flourishing.

    #1143643

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Nfgo3,

    There’s two different kinds of crazy,

    Obama is crazy in an evil sort of way

    Trump is crazy in general sort of like Hillary (just listen to her laugh)

    #1143644

    squeak
    Participant

    Glad you found my comment refreshing. Obama is evil but not crazy. I can’t imagine a world where Obama launches a nuclear weapon – he would just be too worried about what that would do to his precious legacy. Even if the persians launched 6,000 nuclear bombs at different cities in America, Obama would do nothing more than condemn the sad act and ask them to please apologize.

    Trump is crazy enough to strike first. And everyone knows it. Which is important.

    None of the muzzies are suffering from oil prices. It’s a cute idea to say that it starves ISIL, but the truth is those dudes are bankrolled to the wazoo and even a reduction in oil revenue is still extra money. It only hurts the African nations who had planned growth based on rising oil prices, and the developers of alternative energy.

    If you want to see how they’ve flourished, you just have to look around at all the apologists who are standing up for them to defend their ideology. New sensitivity courses are being given to train people that the association of muslim with terrorist support is a harmful stereotype. Every government agency has muslims in key roles including national security and immigration. That doesn’t show they’ve flourished? Obama encouraged arab spring and the muslim brotherhood and now we have ISIS, which he fondly calls ISIL (because why not make your goals even bigger). Come on.

    #1143645

    nfgo3
    Member

    Re Squeak’s most recent post: I am no longer refreshed. So, evidently, “muzzies,” when you use it, evidently means what I speculated that it means. I remain puzzled that YWN has not taken down your use of an ethnic slur. And your notions of “flourishing” don’t seem like flourishing to me. I would rather have the oil money. Hmmmm … does that make me a muzzie? or, worse, a Texan?

    #1143646

    squeak
    Participant

    Are you joking? To the average Mohammed, the examples I gave are the very definition of flourishing.

    As far as the oil money goes, you seem badly informed about who engineered the drop in price. The oil producing Arab nations drove down the price to bankrupt alternative energy producers and retain their market share. If they wanted a higher price per barrel now, they could easily have it. But they don’t need it, and are spending to increase our dependence on them.

    #1143648

    homer
    Member

    ” does that make me a muzzie? or, worse, a Texan?”

    The hatred oozes off the page from nfgo3.

    But like I said Machala Sheayn Bo Refuah.

    Hey nfgo3, Can you please answer my questions from above? Here I’ll copy and paste as a ‘refresher’

    “Unions? take a look what happened to unions in WI, MI, and IN the recent states to pass ‘right to work’ legislation.

    When given a choice people reject unions time and again. There must be a reason for that Charlie.

    Please explain to me why when given a choice unions are ALWAYS dropped.

    And while your at it please explain to me why the places that are such union and liberal democrat strongholds are the worst of the worst in social, economic, and just about any other factor youd like to analyze.

    Republicans are not the answer, but their side has the more impressive lineup in this color war.”

    And global warming? Are you serious? Because when you say things like that it tends to you not being taken seriously.

    They cant predict next weeks snowstorm but the END OF THE WORLD that for sure theyll predict correctly? UH huh and I have a bridge for sale interested?

    #1143649

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    General trends are easier to predict. The people predicting the election results have some idea of how the entire country will vote, but they don’t have a clue about how a random specific person would vote.

    #1143650

    homer
    Member

    So RebYid My bridge is going for a very fair price. . . .

    #1143651

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    I charge $100 plus tax.

    #1143652

    nfgo3
    Member

    Squeak: I am well-informed about where oil prices come from, i.e., from the volume of oil pumped by Saudi Arabia, among many other factors.

    Your comment that Muslims are responsible for pricing oil overlooks an important cluster of facts:

    Saudi Arabia’s population: 29,000,000

    World’s Muslim population: 1,500,000,000

    Muslims not controlling oil

    prices: 1,471,000,000

    #1143653

    squeak
    Participant

    It took you 4 weeks to learn about how oil prices are determined and come up with that lousy counter argument? And all that knowledge that descended upon you was worth sharing with us on Purim? I’ve lost my train of thought.

    #1143654

    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    squeak and Nfgo3

    what has any of this to do this Jewish Democrats. Please hijack a different thread. This Jewish Dem is tired of outsiders butting in

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