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  • #2535292
    pekak
    Participant

    Why do you allow topics and posts that repeatedly deny Torah Sheba’al Peh? If it’s open posting things get through but no comment gets posted without the review and approval of the mods. Doesn’t that make the mods and their employer somewhat culpable?

    #2535615
    35TQ9lm5B
    Participant

    they used to but saw that it doesn’t accomplish anything so they stopped.

    the simple reality is that the internet cant be moderated.

    not in whole and not in part.

    #2535708
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To Pekak

    I totally agree with you. I assume you’re referring to rescue who not only rejects Torah She Baal Peh but also Shebichtav. He thinks he has the right to decide which laws he has to keep if any.

    #2536201
    rescue
    Participant

    Querty and you think you have a right to humilate and villify and anyone and everything that talks. The question is wtf is wrong with you?

    #2536257
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To 35T

    We don’t need the moderators to get rid of the Kofrim. When I showed up at YWN in 2023 there were several Lubavichers who were spouting their Kefirah and idolatry. They’re no longer found, because rational Torah Jews called them out. Now we have an atheist called rescue who “posits” that Hashem never intended for us to actually keep His Mitzvohs. We must unite and call him out. He won’t give up easily because he’s practicing the most dangerous form of Avodah Zarah; the belief that he is a god.

    #2536385
    Little Froggie
    Participant

    ** MOD ON DUTY **

    Please edit above (rescue) offensive language. Doesn’t belong here.

    Gladly do it if I had the “Keys”.

    #2536437
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To Little Froggie

    That’s the least of his problems. It seems like he’s on the verge of breaking down. Let’s help this atheist get there.

    #2537244
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    The so-called “moderators” of this web site have repeatedly permitted:
    Lashon HaRa, Motzi Shem Ra, Onaas Devarim and Laitzanus,
    all of which are forbidden by The Torah.

    How they can repeatedly permit those things,
    and still believe that they are righteous Jews,
    is beyond my ability to understand.

    Maybe the so-called “moderators” of this web site are not Jewish?
    That would explain much, if it is true.

    #2537840
    pekak
    Participant

    @ 35TQ9lm5B

    If the coffee room was an actual free for all then mods would be working full time trying to erase unwanted comments that would appear too fast. This coffee room requires a mod to approve every single comment before it becomes visible. They should invest minimal due diligence to weed out shmutz and kefira. Kefira is denial of the 13 ikkarim as delineated by the Rambam. I’m not talking about the heated debates about Zionism.

    #2538156
    chiefshmerel
    Participant

    Pekak:
    Most of what our resident ragebaiters say denies Torah Shebaal Peh does not.
    Example A) Reuven says that Respected Rav A said something as a Psak Halacha and sources it. Shimon brings another source from Respected Rav B who says otherwise. Shimon’s lack of one-track-mindedness does not mean he denies Torah Shebaal Peh.
    Example B (using names here because this actually happened, see my post and preceding posts at https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/proposed-solution-to-the-arab-zionist-conflict-non-denominational-state/page/5#post-2501631):
    UJM claims over a series of posts that Mishna Berurah & Minchas Elazar say one is not Mechalel Shabbos to save a non-religious Jew’s life. He names specific sections, and I checked there; one clearly says the opposite, the other is on a different topic and makes no such claim.
    UJM is a liar who defames Talmidei Chachamim. I am not questioning Torah Shebaal Peh by calling this out.
    The Chofetz Chaim said not to believe all the nonsense you read on the internet!

    #2538206
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To Pekak

    I assume you’re referring to rescue who has openly declared that G-d doesn’t “want” us to keep His Torah, rather He wants us to exercise our free will and only keep those laws that make sense. According to that “logic” G-d was kidding when He told us not to wear Shaatnez because clearly that makes no sense. Look, it’s very simple. If a Jew for Cheeses tried to post here, he wouldn’t get through, so it’s no different when someone presents views that are anti-thetical to the Torah.

    To SQUARE_ROOT

    How many posters would be left if only Kosher comments were allowed? In addition to the inappropriate issues that you listed are the lies that are routinely written and the lack of basic menschlichkeit. People can have differences of opinion but there’s no excuse for the nastiness that’s displayed. Again, the problem is that if only posters who have actual Torah hashkafah and values were printed most of the current contributors would be eliminated.

    #2538243
    rescue
    Participant

    I’m not sure where you saw I said God doesnt “want” us to keep the Torah. Wow quewrty you really know how to make up bs.
    I never said God doesnt “want” us.
    Shatnes is actually perfectly logical you stupid fool,
    Shatnes is two different fibers that energeticly cancel out each other
    But you who are stupid as a doorknob is ganna tell me I said you shouldn’t keep the Torah.
    Do you know how to read. Or you can’t read properly through your pathetic angry tantrums

    #2538525
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To the group

    It appears that we underestimated this great genius who calls himself rescue, he’s able to explain Hashem’s Chukim something even the Gaon couldn’t do. But we have to remember rescue watches YouTube videos so I probably gets his Pshatim from there.

    To rescue

    You stated in a different thread that there are many Halachos which don’t make sense and so we don’t have to keep them. Would you be so kind as to name three of them?

    #2539270
    rescue
    Participant

    Um, they didn’t have the technology to find out these things:

    “different fibers vibrate at specific frequencies that purportedly interact with the human body’s biofield, which is typically cited as ranging between 70 Hz and 100 Hz when healthy.

    High-Frequency Fibers: Linen and Wool are reported to have the highest frequencies, measured at approximately 5,000 Hz, which is believed to energize the wearer and support vitality.

    When worn together, these conflicting directional energies are said to cancel each other out, causing the combined frequency to drop to zero. This cancellation is claimed to collapse the wearer’s electrical or biofield”

    #2539271
    rescue
    Participant

    “When these two fabrics are in contact, their opposing frequencies cancel each other out, reducing the combined energy signature to zero. This cancellation collapses the electrical field that would otherwise be amplified by wearing either fabric individually, potentially leading to energy depletion or physical discomfort”
    “Combined Effect: Despite their high individual values, the interaction between the two creates a null field, effectively neutralizing the purported healing or energetic benefits of both materials”

    Please tell me how they would have known this without technology?

    #2539272
    rescue
    Participant

    Um I didn’t and don’t get my info from YouTube lol but ok you can believe what you want

    #2539307
    rescue
    Participant

    Your also under a false belief that no one can come up with new information that wasn’t already known. That’s crazy talk. Everyone has, especially in this generation, more experiences and more connection to new information and life experiences than any other generation before it. Information that was impossible for the past to obtain. So your living in a dream world if you think it’s impossible for someone somewhere to not be able to figure it out. Your stupid, slow and devided by decisive hatred and sheeple talk. Go back to bed ok

    #2539323

    I asked LLM to comment on this story and it politely said that the story is “popular in alternative wellness circles”. But then it ventured with it’s own explanation that sounds at least as intriguing!

    Why Linen and Wool Actually Don’t Mix

    If you feel “off” wearing linen and wool together, there is a physical explanation: Static Electricity.

    Linen and wool sit on different ends of the Triboelectric Series.

    When they rub together, they create a significant amount of static discharge. This can cause physical discomfort, clinging, and skin irritation, which might be interpreted as a “drop in energy.”

    #2539658
    rescue
    Participant

    Mainstream science has a vested interest to cover up anything “alternative”
    So I wouldn’t say its false just because the oligarchs say so lol

    #2539666
    rescue
    Participant

    “the Ag-Environ machine, originally designed to measure the signature frequency of agricultural plants, is the specific device cited in studies (such as those by Dr. Heidi Yellen) for measuring the vibrational frequencies of wool and linen.

    Ag-Environ Machine: Used to determine “signature frequencies,” with reported results of 5,000 MHz for pure wool and pure linen, and 0 MHz when mixed”

    #2539723
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To rescue

    Now that you’ve explained the Lav of wearing Shaatnez, why don’t you explain the cause(s) of the Holocaust?

    #2539757
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    The so-called “moderators” of this web site have repeatedly permitted:
    rambling copy and paste with no thought process
    all of which are forbidden by The Torah because they annoy people.

    How they can repeatedly permit those things,
    and still believe that they are righteous Jews,
    is beyond my ability to understand.

    Maybe the so-called “moderators” of this web site are not Jewish?
    That would explain much, if it is true.

    #2539910
    user176
    Participant

    Rescue, your language is abhorrent. Even if your Torah was perfect you can never be respected as a Ben Torah using those words and acronyms.

    Shaatnez is not perfectly logically. What you mean to say is that you’ve come across a scientific phenomenon that is congruent with the mitzva of Shaatnez. Once you decide that you’ve found the reason behind the mitzvah you’ve replaced the mitzvah with the reason and will then derive laws that the Torah never intended.

    Regardless, by stating that Shaatnez is perfectly logical you’ve actually defended his accusation that you won’t keep a mitzvah unless it makes sense. You are basically saying that you keep Shaatnez because you’ve uncovered the reason behind it and now it makes sense.

    #2540066
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To user176

    You put it beautifully. In a different thread this atheist wrote that many Halachos don’t make sense, which of course, to him means that not only are we not required to keep them, but G-d wants us to use our free will and reject them. I can’t explain his Kefirah and insanity, I am simply here to point it out.

    #2540088
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To always

    Are you agreeing with the lunatic that static electricity is the reason that the Torah prohibits wearing Shaatnez? But it’s prohibited to wear Shaatnez even if it has one strand of linen and the rest of the garment is wool. There would be no measurable effect in that case. Just trying to point out the idiocy of his claims.

    #2540111

    user> Regardless, by stating that Shaatnez is perfectly logical you’ve actually defended his accusation that you won’t keep a mitzvah unless it makes sense. You are basically saying that you keep Shaatnez because you’ve uncovered the reason behind it and now it makes sense.

    qwerty> that static electricity is the reason that the Torah prohibits wearing Shaatnez?

    guys, just to respond to someone you feel is not adhering to Jewish tradition, you are piling up arguments without due consideration. It is well within Jewish tradition to contemplate taamei mitzvos. Gemora and rishonim do that. Some of their ideas are profound, some others sound naive from what we know now. It is not impossible that modern knowledge will help us understand something we did not understand before.

    Sherirah Gaon explains how some halochos are attributed to later amoraim – saying that there is always room for next generations to discover thing and get credit to their Torah learning. With all the science we have now, surely we should be using it to get credit for our generation! Unless you are sensitive that the next, chatgpt, generation has something for their credit!

    #2540316
    rescue
    Participant

    It’s not static electricity quierty it’s frequency.

    According to studies on fabric frequencies, wool and linen are both considered high-healing fabrics due to their unique vibrational properties. Linen, derived from flax, and wool share a signature frequency of 5,000 mHz, which is significantly higher than the healthy human body’s frequency of approximately 70–100 mHz. This high energy is believed to provide a positive vibration that aids in healing, boosts vitality, and accelerates recovery, which is why linen was historically used for hospital sheets and bandages to prevent infections and bedsores.

    While both fabrics offer these energetic benefits, they possess opposing energy flows that prevent them from being worn together. Linen’s energy flows in one direction while wool’s flows in the opposite direction; if combined, their frequencies cancel each other out, reducing the energy signature to zero. Beyond vibrational energy, linen is praised for being hygroscopic, hypoallergenic, and antimicrobial, making it ideal for sensitive skin, while wool is valued for thermal regulation, moisture wicking, and containing soothing lanolin that benefits skin sensitivities.

    #2540317
    rescue
    Participant

    This cancellation results in several adverse effects on the body:

    Energy Depletion: The neutralized frequency collapses the electrical field, leading to physical weakness, fatigue, and a draining effect on the body’s natural vitality.
    Discomfort: Users may experience physical discomfort or a sense of being energetically ungrounded, similar to the effects of wearing low-frequency synthetic fabrics.
    Loss of Benefits: Both fabrics individually resonate at a high frequency of 5,000 Hz (compared to the body’s ~100 Hz), but combining them negates the healing and energizing properties of both materials.

    #2540319
    rescue
    Participant

    You can keep yelling and screaming like a freak but you keep exposing yourself to be a fool. Shush before you can’t take back any vestige left of your sanity

    #2540347
    pekak
    Participant

    לא חרבה ירושלים אלא על שלא ברכו בתורה תחילה

    ברוך …. המלמד תורה לעמו ישראל
    ברוך …. נותן התורה

    We don’t need science to prove HKB”H’s words
    His words are all that count
    The Torah proves the science

    #2540361
    rescue
    Participant

    Pekak, not knowing doesn’t make you more pios. And being a sheeple doesn’t make you or engender more holiness. Stop being a fraud. As to all of you above with your vitreol hatred. Bunch of fruadsters.
    Who can spew more sheeple speak wins the prize. No that’s not how humans were designed. We are naturally critical thinkers. And new information and being able to have open dialogue helps us make better choices.
    The fascism in these walls.
    Your not a better person if you can spew fake slogans and facts you learned as a kid. You are a pious person if you actually engender and embody moral charachtor in real life complicated scanarios the very base reason for the text is to teach you how to live. Not just have blind faith. What a bunch of broken fools you are. Lol crazy. Lunacy everytime you spew hatred you show how foolish and how far from being a good person you are contradicting the very thing you are tought lol.
    What a bunch of fools. It’s so so sad. Wakeup

    #2540619
    ??coffee addict
    Participant

    Rescue reminds me of a news story I heard that a writer from the New Yorker doesn’t feel bad for stealing lemons from Whole Foods because it’s a big store and they “don’t really care” in other words justifying not following laws because it doesn’t make sense to them

    I wonder what other American law rescue doesn’t follow

    #2540715
    pekak
    Participant

    I will not apologize for believing in Torah MiSinai. When I say the second parsha of Krias Shema I accept on myself all mitzvos that can possibly be kept today without the Beis Hamikdosh. I accept upon myself all the different types of mitzvos including the “chukim” which we keep whether or not we think we know the meaning for them. We keep the chukim because G-d said so. Modern science and discoveries mean nothing.

    #2540745
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To rescue

    For someone who thinks he’s smarter than G-d you write on the level of a two-year-old. Checkmate moron.

    #2540891
    rescue
    Participant

    “check mate moron”
    Let’s decipher what you just did
    Your trying to insult me, by saying I write in simplistic language.
    You know what’s written in simplistic lanaguge? The Torah lol.”and say unto Moses”
    And “Moses said unto aron, go unto the nation….’
    simplicity cuts through the noise and gets to the heart of the understanding. It bypasses the intellect and creates wisdom.
    Big, elaborate words are like a flower in a cage.
    It may be pretty but their useless in a cage
    Knowledge which is the illusion of knowing versus wisdom
    Just because someone makes a good show and presents himself a certain way doesn’t mean he’s in the right lol.

    #2540892
    rescue
    Participant

    This is why people hate Donald Trump, he talks in the most simplistic language so that they cannot twist his words. The masses scream and carry on because he doesn’t present himself the perfect lie of all the other politicians. Do you want a perfect lie or the brash truth lol

    #2540893
    rescue
    Participant

    The same way food hides complex vitmens that the human body knows how to digest simple language can convey depth becuase it gets to the root of an issue bypassing the complicated rhetoric, wisdom is food for the soul.
    Everything in life is complex machines and desighn covered by things we can digest and understand

    #2540920
    rescue
    Participant

    Coffee addict the fact that your connecting whatever I said to an example of stealing shows that you have a problem with discernment and comprehension skills. Your equating all rules with morality which is not true. Rules can be used to enslave people and control them and yes you should use your brain to pick and choose because you have free will….free will is the mechanism againts tyranny or tyrannical control systems. That doesn’t equal and translate unto condoning “bad behavior”. Your honestly pathetic.

    #2541133
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To rescue

    No, you dufus, I criticize you because you spell half of your words incorrectly. Yes, I’m sure you’ll answer that you have your own oppion as to how words should be spelled.

    #2541501
    nevuah
    Participant

    Spelling doesn’t change the content of a person’s message. It’s clear that your misconstruing what this writer is saying. You think they are condoning a pick and choose reality, that’s why you think they would say that about spelling but what they are saying is very different, your just to angry to see it. From what I hear them saying, they are trying to differentiate tyrannical thinking from moral code.

    #2541503
    nevuah
    Participant

    When rules are weaponized to silence critics, or extend power beyond what is their right and infringes upon a person’s freedom, they transform into instruments of control rather than truth. It’s important to use your intellect to differentiate tyranny from truth. Unless you like living that way. A choice you seem to vehemently defend without any real intelligence to back up why

    #2541721
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To Nevuah

    Why don’t you explain, in your words, the message that recue is trying to convey?

    #2541744
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    When will the Coffee Room moderators issue a clear statement of their rules and policies?

    #2541775
    DaMoshe
    Participant

    What are the odds that nevuah and rescue are the same person?
    Joseph, you’re the expert on having multiple screen names – what do you think?

    #2541894
    qwerty613
    Participant

    To DaMoshe

    How can you suspect rescue of such duplicity? The Torah says, “Midvar Sheker Tirchak” Such a Tzaddik would never violate any of the laws of the Torah. Oh, my mistake. He only keeps those Mitzvohs that make sense to him, and he would consider being forced to tell the truth, an infringement on his free will.

    #2541987
    pekak
    Participant

    @DaMoshe

    I’d say they’re absolutely the same person. They both ignore the spellcheck at the same frequency because they know better.

    #2542007

    panim al panim – you change your face but you can’t change your punctuation habits.

    #2542009
    nevuah
    Participant

    In my words it seems rescue is trying to differentiate tyranny from truth. Simple as that

    #2542690
    nevuah
    Participant

    Querty. Morality doesn’t deffrentiate whether someone believes them or not they react regardless of belief. So, I don’t “pick and choose” what I believe in. I just admire and understand reality on a much simpler less constrictive level then you. I don’t believe in squashing myself into a overly controlling box. I also accept that I am human and I’m not expected to be extreme, dogmatic (which are by nature unhealthy ideals) and to be a sheeple as that doesn’t lead me to make better choices or be more moral in real life..Actually in the name of confromity people by nature throw away their free will to fallow the crowd cuz of fear and fear isn’t freedom. Ive seen quite a few people quickly throw away lots of their character because the crowds pressure made them lose their bearings..
    If you want to live that kind of lifestyle where instead of dialogue you scream at everybody and somehow thats what is helping the cause towards being the best version of yourself n then so be it. But from what I see there’s no freedom of thought allowed. No freedom of truth. It’s all….kind of controlling. Controlling is not healthy. Something that is not healthy is also not in alignment with truth. It’s the opposite of truth

    #2542691
    nevuah
    Participant

    And….one more thing. If the Torah _is_ truth then it has to be in alignment with truth. And all the extremism thinking needs to fall away cuz truth is truth. Not extrmism

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