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    flatbusher
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    Why is it that nusach sfard/chassidishe shuls do no say Avinu Malkeinu on a taanis, such as today? What is it in that their leaders found so non-compelling and meaningful as to not recite it on these days? Some places do not even say during Aseres Y’mai Teshuvah. Any insights?

    #1090595

    WolfishMusings
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    I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I davened in a shul that davens Nusach Sefard today and we said AM…

    The Wolf

    #1090596

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    we did too

    and i always have

    where are you basing your generalaztion from?

    #1090597

    flatbusher
    Participant

    Well, I have been in several shuls here in Flatbush over the years where they didn’t, including this morning. And I didn’t say all shuls, I just said nusach sfard/chassidishe, because the ashkenaz always say Avinu Malkeinu.

    #1090598

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    did they say tachnun?

    #1090599

    147
    Participant

    Because this prayer was composed exclusively for “Asseres Yemei Teshuva”. …. Phrases like “Boreich Oleinu Shono Tovo” and the “5 Kosveinu’s” are clear obvious giveaways, that this prayer is only pertanent to Asseres Yemei Teshuva.

    Needless, to say, Jekkes also don’t recite Ovinu Malkeinu on a Ta’anis except of-course on Tzom Gedaliah & Y’K which are during the Asseres Yemei Teshuva.

    #1090600

    flatbusher
    Participant

    Yes, they said tachanun.

    Avinu Malkeinu has alternative language for taanis tzibbur that isnot during asseres yemai teshuva.

    #1090601

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    very interesting,

    why don’t you ask them?

    #1090602

    Geordie613
    Participant

    In 2 shuls which daven according to Vizhnitz minhogim that I’ve been to (Hagers in Golders Green, London & Shteible Prestwich, Manchester) they do NOT say Avinu Malkeinu on Taaniyos.

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