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  • #2263593
    ☕️coffee addict
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    So you’ve seen the ads in the news that bingo opened up (in the five towns)

    I was wondering what everyone thinks about it (especially people in the FR/5T community

    My son told me that he heard that the owner of Gourmet Glatt took bingo to a din Torah to stop them from opening because the community couldn’t support all the stores (there are now a total of 6 stores (2 Gourmet Glatts, Kol save (gourmet glatts cheaper store), seasons, and Rockaway Kosher are the others)

    Bingo’s claimed aim was to lower the prices and save money for the community (their slogan says “now it doesn’t matter where you shop now you’ll shop for less”) and I can see that it worked to an extent. The problem is that Gourmet Glatt is in a big shopping center off Central Ave and Seasons is also on Central Ave which drives up prices due to the rent so they can only lower it so much without hurting their bottom line.

    Additionally, I do my shopping in Gourmet Glatt and this past week I went on Thursday (usually the busiest time of the week) and it was dead, and I know that a lot of prepared food went to waste

    So I’m wondering what everyone else thinks

    (Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been to bingo and am impressed and Kol Save did have better sales)

    #2263874
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    This question is for an expert in Choshen Mishpat, which very few people are.

    #2263888
    Kuvult
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    B”H I’m so removed from the NY area that my first thought was Bingo played for money usually to raise funds for a Volunteer Fire Department.

    #2263890
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Square root,

    Are you saying people can’t have an opinion on an issue notwithstanding a din Torah?

    #2263891
    besalel
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    I am looking forward to lower my grocery spending by 75% and I hope all the stores that charged us through the nose go out of business. Hilchos Onaa meant nothing to them, these tzadikim who charged us 3 and 4 times the price of other places.

    #2263911
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Besalel,

    And you know all the costs that go into a grocery store?

    #2263913

    is there a “five town” beis din, or are these five different batei dinim? I am thinking my shtetl should be renamed into “ten towns” given different number of sub-communities with their own psak.

    #2263914

    Somewhere in Bava Basra there is a case of butchers making a cartel with each of them working a separate day, and one refused and opened up as a competitor, and the cartel slashes his tires and skins. Gemora, I think, allows them to have their own din like that, but not if there is a talmid chacham in town whom they should have asked.

    #2263924
    ☕️coffee addict
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    There is a “five town beis din”

    #2263935
    Kuvult
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    AAQ,
    We may need something similar to this;
    “The 1902 kosher meat boycott was a boycott of New York City kosher butchers on the part of American Jewish women in response to a coordinated increase in price of kosher meat from 12 to 18 cents a pound. This increase was significant enough that many Jewish families could no longer afford to buy meat. The protests, led mainly by immigrant Jewish women on Manhattan’s Lower East Side, though controversial in their often-violent tactics, were largely successful and resulted in the lowering of the price of meat to 14 cents a pound.”

    #2264048
    besalel
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    AAQ: you cnt just cobble together any five towns. over jewish history there were only two “five towns.” One was Sedom, Amora, Admaa, Tzvoim and Tzoar. The other one you already know.

    #2264084
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Besalel,

    We know that for every “bad” thing there is a corresponding “good” thing

    In the “5 towns” there are way more than ״חמישים צדיקים״

    #2264188
    Gadolhadorah
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    A new market entrant that forced some of the incumbents to reduce their profit margins would benefit everyone (except the incumbents). If it meant that the least efficient operators could not survive, thats really the way markets work. There would still be multiple options for shoppers and the overall price levels would be lower than current levels. While there are many products that are readily available in goiyeshe markets like Costco and Shoprite, the majority of shoppers still need to make most of their fresh meat, fish and some produce purchases at market-owned by yidden with hashgacha.

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