August 4, 2016 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #618079
I would like to go to the bahamas and am searching around for good websites to find vacation deals (airfare+hotel). Any suggestions?
Also, do any of these websites have free cancellation? so far what I’ve found is free cancellation only up to 24 hours after you book.
Thank you so much in advance!August 4, 2016 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm #1162822
How is it possible to go to the Bahamas and avoid the rampant pritzus?August 4, 2016 4:59 pm at 4:59 pm #1162823
Private home with private beach on one of the small privately owned out islands will avoid that problem.
NOT CHEAP, but it can be done.August 4, 2016 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #1162824
How is it possible to go to the Bahamas and avoid the rampant pritzus?
The same way people go to Miami Beach and learn in the Beis Medrash thereAugust 4, 2016 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #1162825
ZD, people aren’t going to the Bahamas to go to the Beis Medrash, I assure you. I’m skeptical the Bahamas even has a Beis Medrash.August 4, 2016 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #1162826
The bahamas has pritzus? Really? How would you know that?
I mean, I wouldn’t know since I’ve never been there.
Have you?August 4, 2016 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #1162827
Of course there is a Beis Medrash in the bahamas, its run by Rav Sholom Bluming (You can google him…He is real)August 4, 2016 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #1162828
I was never there. You don’t need to be somewhere to have heard the horrible reputation that precedes it.
I’ve never been to Las Vegas either but one would need to be pretty sheltered to not know of the terrible pritzus that is the norm there.
It is wise to know where to avoid so you don’t “innocently” end up in the wrong places.August 4, 2016 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #1162829
So your “proof” that there is pritzus in the bahamas (or vegas) is that ‘everybody knows it’ ?August 4, 2016 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #1162830
There is also pritzus on Avenue J.August 4, 2016 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm #1162831
There is a Kollel in Las Vegas, Any city with a Kollel must have some Kedush to it. I think its associated with Chofetz Chaim, but Im not 100% sureAugust 4, 2016 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #1162832
Adocs, yeas – it is enough.August 4, 2016 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #1162833
The Kollel in Las Vegas is miles away from the strip, which is the part of town that is infamous. It is probably a 15- 20 minutes drive without traffic.August 4, 2016 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm #1162834
Try Dan’s Deals.
There happens to be another Orthodox shul in Las Vegas that is much closer to the strip– maybe a mile or two away from the bottom of the strip.August 4, 2016 8:59 pm at 8:59 pm #1162835
Its obvious you are an expert on las Vegas, next time I go Ill remember to take your advice and allow 15-20 mins to drive to the kollelAugust 4, 2016 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #1162836
paradise island is so pretty!August 5, 2016 1:29 am at 1:29 am #1162837
Alright, I have to say, I almost agree with Joseph on this one from Halachas standpoint. There really is no reason to go to the Bahamas except A) a public or hotel beach, or B) gambling.
As CT lawyer points out, there are expensive ways to do it on the private islands (ie eleuthera) to simply have a pretty beach without the public, but the original poster was asking for a bargain, and the bargains involve A or B above and somewhere in Nassau or Paradise Island.
From my recollection, Halacha and the gemamra frowns on gambling either considering it stealing (though not all do), or that it is immoral anyway because the loser did not expect to lose, or its just not what a jew should be doing.
Frankly, it is hard for me to see the difference between the stock market and a skilled game in the casino.
Anyway, joseph, I concede, almost all authorities are not happy with the idea of gambling, but you could apply much of what they say to the stock market or any investment.August 5, 2016 4:50 am at 4:50 am #1162839
lesheimshamayim -“I would like to go to the bahamas”
Before you go, check out if the Bahamas have Zika there?August 5, 2016 9:03 am at 9:03 am #1162840
Why do you want to go there? It is going to be hard for the frum Jew sgetting kosher food finding a minyan and even learning Torah. Miami is a more Kosher place, although there too there is pritzus and crime in both places.
Besides Zaika and crime if you venture outside the tourist areas there are also hurricanes which will ruin your vacation this time of year. If you can wait until the first hurricane hits you can probably find a good deal.August 5, 2016 11:43 am at 11:43 am #1162841
Lots of Frum jews go to places without Minyans or Kosher food (THey bring it with them) , If you are only going to travel to a place with a minyan you will miss most places.
Lots of frum jews go to the National Parks (Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Yosemite) for example, and there arent minyans and Kosher food there.
Its only very recently that you could go to most major European Cities and go to a Kosher RestaurantAugust 5, 2016 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm #1162842
The comments about the issue with going to the Bahamas were not in relation to there being a minyan there or a kosher restaurant. It was a comment about vacationing in a plan that is ??? ?????? ????.
There being a Kollel in Las Vegas, which is nowhere near the strip, does not kasher up the strip.
As far as the shul closer to the strip, I have heard that it really does not have regular minyanim. The Chabad, which apparently has a whole complex, does have regular minyanim, but is also quite removed from the strip.August 5, 2016 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm #1162843
I was in the Bahamas for a brief stay earlier this year yes of course if you go to the beaches there will be pritzus but there is much culture to see and enjoy and fun activities that do not involve the beach.August 5, 2016 1:22 pm at 1:22 pm #1162844
People arent going to the Bahamas for the Culture there. People do go to las vegas for business as there are many trade shows there especially the CES where alot of frum people goAugust 5, 2016 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm #1162845
If you google Sholom Bluming, you’ll find his website in which he discusses Jewish life in the Bahamas. It’s possible to be frum where there’s a beach. Think Far Rockaway, Belle Harbor, and Long Beach.August 5, 2016 3:44 pm at 3:44 pm #1162846
lesheimshamayim -“I would like to go to the bahamas and am searching around for good websites to find vacation deals (airfare+hotel). Any suggestions?”
A lot of deals.August 5, 2016 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #1162847
The shul close to the strip does have regular minyanim on Shabbos (I don’t know about during the week). At least, as of three years ago they did…August 5, 2016 9:34 pm at 9:34 pm #1162848
I was in the Bahamas for a brief stay earlier this year yes of course if you go to the beaches there will be pritzus but there is much culture to see and enjoy and fun activities that do not involve the beach.
Eeees and I went to St. Thomas (and St. John) a number of years ago. The people on the island dress fairly conservatively away from the beaches (certainly no worse than you would find in any major metropolitan city on the mainland). We had a great time and brought our own meat (other kosher staples were available there). As for swimming, we had our own private pool, so going to the beaches was not a concern for us.
The WolfAugust 7, 2016 5:21 am at 5:21 am #1162849
I just came back to this site and read some of the responses. Although I appreciate everyone’s concern and advice, if you noticed, I asked for advice on good vacation websites deals, NOT on your opinion of whether or not I should go.
I am a 25 year old girl, going with a 27 year old female friend. We are not males who need minyan or a beis medresh. Although pritzus is relevant for males and females, it is totally different. Shmiras aynayim is a must, however it is not assur for me to see a female in a bathing suite as it is with a male. The reason I want to go now more than ever to the bahamas, is because iyH when I get married, I will not go to a beach area with my husband.
Additionally, I did not even know there were casino’s or gambling there, as that is not and would never be, something I’d be interested in doing… but thank you for opening up my eyes to assur things I have available.
In terms of zika, I appreciate your concern, and I actually had called up the CDC before deciding to go to the Bahamas to make sure it is Zika free.
Stepping out of my initial reaction of getting yelled at from everyone as to my vacation plans without being asked for their opinions and without them even knowing me, I do realize that you all mean well and are only saying what you are saying because you care about me as a Jew and about my yiddishkeit.
Therefore, thank you for caring. I give you a bracha that you should be as careful with your own yidishkeit as you are with others, you should judge yourself with the same ease as you judge others, you should conquer your yetzer hara always, you should be protected from all harm- physically and spiritually, and you should never hurt others feelings.
Thanks for your help, may we all have a safe remainder of the nine days and may Hashem protect us always.August 7, 2016 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #1162850
@lesheim To the extent my post can be read as advising you not to go or giving you advice you did not ask for, I apologize. As with most things in the CR, the responses tend to veer far from the posts.
That said, I was once in my 20s also so no judgment, but if you did not know there was gambling in the Bahamas, you should (at least) google before you go to decide if you actually want to go.
The problem with the Bahamas is that the nice areas are not a bargain, and the ones that are, you have to carefully investigate their safety etc… Leaving halacha out of it, there are some spots anyone from the US (much less a female) would be wise not to go. This is true of many places, though you are generally (though of course, not always) safer in the US.
Anyway, as someone who lives 200 miles from Nassau, and does go there from time to time when I want a short vacation close by, I am not telling you not to go, but investigate before you do. If I had information on the bargain places I would tell you, but I really do not.August 7, 2016 6:00 pm at 6:00 pm #1162851
dont go to bahamas if your worried about pritzus.August 7, 2016 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #1162852
Lesheim: I loved your brochos at the end of your post!!!!!
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