July 4, 2011 2:27 pm at 2:27 pm #597780
so i checked it up online and apparently its a machlokes kashrus agencies if its kosher or “recommended” or not. ive been looking into it and star k says not…london beis din says yes…but that may be because its cholov stam…anyone know anything about it?July 4, 2011 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #782982
Cholov stam it is, but make sure they haven’t added gelatin as well.July 4, 2011 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #782983
make sure…im asking if its kosher or not…its a yes or no. would one bottle have and one bottle not have?July 4, 2011 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #782984
🙂 I hold by CY as well as by not drinking anything below 80 US Proof (LOL) so I don’t know. I only mentioned the issue that could have changed things.
One more issue. I don’t know where the Bailey’s in the US comes from. LBD probably OK’s Bailey’s from Ireland.July 4, 2011 7:47 pm at 7:47 pm #782985
There’s a version of it (which is even better in my opinion!) available with the hashgacha of the Badatz Eida HaHareit Yerushalayim no less (in Israel at least) – it’s called simply “Coffee Liquor” and the brand is “LeChaim”July 5, 2011 12:43 am at 12:43 am #782986
that is NOT what i asked. i KNOW that coffee liquor is available…starbucks makes a a very good one. im asking about that SPECIFIC brand. and bear…i read (again this is from a blog online so not teh most credible of sources) that the only production factory for baileys is ireland and all of the versions are produced there…July 5, 2011 4:16 am at 4:16 am #782987
One more issue. I don’t know where the Bailey’s in the US comes from. LBD probably OK’s Bailey’s from Ireland.
All of their Irish Creme Whiskey is made in Newtownabbey Ireland. Unless the export whiskey is bottled elsewhere the products are identical.
The Star-K requires that Liqueurs (not to be confused with Liquors) have a Hechsher. Bailey’s doesn’t have a Hechsher from the KLBD, it is only approved by the LBD.July 5, 2011 11:35 am at 11:35 am #782988
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I have heard that the LBD only certifies those bottles produced in Ireland. Bottles sold in the US however do not come from Ireland.July 5, 2011 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm #782989
I personally know a mahgiach who has supervised LIMITED productions of Baileys Irish Cream which are still made with Cholov Akum (as it is referred to in the Poskim) otherwise it is TREIF gomurJuly 5, 2011 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #782991
bombmaniac: I realize that you want an Irish whiskey liqueur, but does it HAVE to be Baileys? I believe that there are other Irish whiskey liqueurs available – you would have to check them for a hechsher. As an example, I have had other brands of coffee liqueurs besides Tia Maria and Kahlua and cannot tell the difference. Of course, I am not a real conniseur (sp??) on any alcoholic product. The last “drink” that I had was a Black Russian at my oldest grandson’s Bar Mitzvah and he is now past 18 years old (aside from some Manishchewitz on Friday nights – even that is usually Kedem grape juice)July 5, 2011 4:03 pm at 4:03 pm #782992
i like kahlua…but its not the same…and i dont HAVE to have it…i wont die if i dont…but it looks good and it might be kosher…so im trying to find out…ive had quite a few coffee liqueurs and id like that one…is it such a crime? obtw if anyone knows any stores in BP that sell kahlua im interestedJuly 5, 2011 4:35 pm at 4:35 pm #782993
So this is now the YWN Coffee LIQUOR room? A shonda! Yidden drinking low proof syrupy kid stuff :))))!
Seriously, Orlander’s on 13th Ave and 48th Street (4812 13th Ave) is the place to go for your Kahlua, because they have a nice selection at decent (but not the lowest) prices and the owner is very careful to tell you if something is not kosher. IIRC the Kahlua situation is also confusing because some is and some is not kosher.
And if you really want to try something with a kick, there is a hardware store a few doors down that carries paint remover, which everyone holds is kasher lemehadrin :))).July 5, 2011 4:50 pm at 4:50 pm #782994
😀 😀 😀 i drink for teh taste not because i want to get intoxicated 😀 (ok…once in a while a shot of chivas:P but i Do liek that taste too :D) so thanks for the orlanders tip 😀 you just facilitated underage drinking 😀 😀 😀 i am deeply grateful lolJuly 5, 2011 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #782995
According to the CRC, Bailey Irish Cream is NOT recommended with out an hashgacha.July 5, 2011 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #782996
right i saw that…i was just wondering if thats because its cholov stamJuly 5, 2011 6:42 pm at 6:42 pm #782997
The Chicago CRC would not recommend CY only. Rabbi Semelman from Y-m has a note that he is checking again but in the meantime he does not recommend any Bailey’s liqueurs even though he has information that they are LBD approved.July 5, 2011 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #782998
bombmaniac: Is it a coffee flavoured liquour that you want or an Irish whiskey flavoured liquour that you want? Or…are you looking for both? Baileys is definitely an Irish whiskey based product, while Kahlua is coffee based. BTW – I have a recipe for homemade coffee liquour which is very easy and extremely tasty. It is made with instant coffee granules, sugar and vodka (I think). I have made it before and it is great. If you want the recipe, let me know. If you make your own there is no problem with the hechsher.July 5, 2011 11:26 pm at 11:26 pm #783000
@minyan gal it was more the way baileys was made. basically now what i have is taking a shot of starbucks stuff and mixing it with that walders (sp) vodka and cream stuff and thats good…but not as good as it could be. i suppose baileys is out then. kahlua is nice, and ill probably get some but i was hoping to try something new 🙂 ah well…
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