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  • October 21, 2013 3:21 am at 3:21 am #610954
    Binyamin2711
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    Baruch Hashem My son is looking forward for yeshiva gedolah but unfortunately He’s having dilemas with his rebbeim since He wants to move on and the rebbeim want him to stay there as they are telling him you will truly grow here.He wants to go to a top yeshiva gedolah. He’s currently in Yeshivat Torah Vodaath and bli ayin hora He is a tremendous masmid and knows around 1rd of Shas. He wants a very hard shiur so as to grow as much as he can. I’m thinking of maybe putting him a yeshiva in Brooklyn for a year and after sending him out of town. Any ideas for a good yeshiva with the shtarkest bochurim in Brooklyn and friendly ruach?

    October 21, 2013 4:17 am at 4:17 am #981773
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    this can’t be real.

    October 21, 2013 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #981774
    LevAryeh
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    knows around 1rd of Shas

    Huh? Is that a number?

    Also, I heard a great line from R’ Elya Ber Wachtfogel about bachurim who “finish Shas” but I won’t say it, in case your son has photographic memory.

    October 21, 2013 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #981775
    Binyamin2711
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    Very Interesting, but what was R’ Elya Ber thought about this. Baruch Hashem the rebbeim say He asks kashyas from all over the place and he should keep on going further.

    October 21, 2013 9:37 pm at 9:37 pm #981776
    Binyamin2711
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    Anyways but I’m looking for some good suggestions.

    October 21, 2013 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #981777
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    how ’bout vaudville

    October 21, 2013 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm #981778
    heretohelp
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    My son can whistle the alphabet backwards? Any suggestions for where I should send him.

    October 21, 2013 10:45 pm at 10:45 pm #981779
    Sam2
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    LAB: Not in regards to this person, but, in general, what’s the line?

    October 22, 2013 2:14 am at 2:14 am #981780
    jbaldy22
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    bekious is definitely an underrated value in yeshivos. That’s what actually makes this story questionable – if he went to a real yeshiva no way he finished that much of shas.

    October 22, 2013 3:13 am at 3:13 am #981781
    Binyamin2711
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    I was thinking of maybe Torah Temimah anyone know anything abt it.

    October 22, 2013 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm #981782
    Binyamin2711
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    my son is a true masmid and always tries to learn bekius on his free time.

    October 22, 2013 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #981783
    seeallsides
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    You have a lot of people to ask in Torah Vadaath who know your son and will guide you properly –

    October 22, 2013 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #981784
    LevAryeh
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    I heard that he spoke at a bachur’s siyum on Shas, and he commented how nowadays when a bachur learns twenty blatt a zman second seder, he’s considered to have gone quickly. Ten blatt would be b’iyun, seven blatt is even more, five is even more, and a guy who did two blatt must be the best bachur in yeshiva! So a bachur who finished Shas…

    October 22, 2013 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm #981785
    WIY
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    LAB

    He means it as a compliment! He is knocking the whole derech halimud (derech am haratzus) that sadly takes place today in most Yeshivos.

    October 22, 2013 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm #981786
    Binyamin2711
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    They said about rav Nosson tzvi how he used to go around the bais medrash and ask where your holding and he would tell them that you have to go further and that you are spending too long on a certain sugya. Rav Ovadia zatzal used to say about bochurim who learn 2 or 3 blatt from elul to pesach and said that u have pick up ground.And I’ll tell you a lot of times u don’t have to put fingers up and down to find pshat of gemara when its a mefurash gemara elsewhere. Bekius is a foundation for iyun.

    October 22, 2013 11:35 pm at 11:35 pm #981787
    Binyamin2711
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    Binyamin2711

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    They said about rav Nosson tzvi how he used to go around the bais medrash and ask where your holding and he would tell them that you have to go further and that you are spending too long on a certain sugya. Rav Ovadia zatzal used to say about bochurim who learn 2 or 3 blatt from elul to pesach and said that u have pick up ground.And I’ll tell you a lot of times u don’t have to put fingers up and down to find pshat of gemara when its a mefurash gemara elsewhere. Bekius is a foundation for iyun.

    October 23, 2013 1:58 am at 1:58 am #981788
    Sam2
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    Binyamin: Based on your name, I’m guessing he did Shkalim as well.

    October 23, 2013 2:07 am at 2:07 am #981789
    jbaldy22
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    the maharal in nesiv hatorah is an interesting read on the subject he says it would be better if they had printed piskei harash on the side of the gemara instead of tosafos because then at least people would know some halacha.

    October 23, 2013 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #981790
    twisted
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    Jbaldy: in my mad rush through shas (first time daf yomi) I make a point at end of masechta to do kitzur piske tosafos, and selected rosh for “casual’ reading.

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