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    yfr
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    anybody know of anybody that does behab or yom kippur kattan

    #1105834
    Student of Torah
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    my yeshiva does behab

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    Sam2
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    I know several people. Why do you ask?

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    the plumber
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    By “does behab” you probably mean that the tzibbur does behab, because no individual actually does it.

    Most of the velt is burnt out of selichos already

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    147
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    BeHaB is not for another 2 weeks:- 2 & 3 weeks from this Monday & 2 weeks from this coming Thursday.

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    the plumber
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    Not exactly 3 wks. More like yhis monday

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    nishtdayngesheft
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    I am sure the Shomer Shabbos Shul in Boro Park will have a number of minyanim

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    147
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    The Jekkish practice in marCheshvon is to observe BeHaB the last 2 Mondays in MarCheshvon with the intervening Thursday, so “the plumber” what I said was correct.

    1) Because as days get shorter, it makes fasting a shorter amount of time.

    2) The Mabul commenced marCheshvon 17th, and observing last 2 Mondays in marCheshvon, makes marCheshvon 17th, the earliest possible date that Sheni Kamo can come out on.

    3) It simulates Mishna in Taanis when 1st Taanis in case rain did not fall was be marCheshvon 17th.

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    Student of Torah
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    what if the first Monday of behab is not 17 cheshvon?

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    Sam2
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    I believe the main Beis at YU says Slichos, if that’s what you’re asking.

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    Geordie613
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    We had this discussion 3 years ago about the minhogim of when Behab is ‘done’.

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/behab-1

    In England, the minhag in London is the Jekkisch minhag, other places say it earlier.

    But I do find many places are opting out of saying these slichos. I can’t think why it has suddenly become ‘optional’. I was speaking to the Rav of a shul that is officially minhag Hamburg, and they stopped saying it when many people started davening elsewhere on those days. In the case of Yom Kippur Kotton it is only recent that it has become widespread. But Behab is a very old minhag. Does anyone have anything on this?

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    Geordie613
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    Regarding the OP, many places are now saying Yom Kippur Koton especially before Elul. It is often surprising which minyonim say it. For example in Gateshead, (a few years ago, I’m not sure what the current situation is) the only regular YKK minyan was in the Boarding School/Mechina l’Yeshiva.

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