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Or worse, people just assuming you are. What do you do?
Say “I am a Jew!”
Do you mean because you are wearing Chassdic Garb?
You dont need to answer any questions you dont want to
I live in EY. No one has heard of halloween. Maybe you should move here.
What have you done in the past? Did you appreciate the results?
If someone asks you about your “costume,” you can say “Everyday is dress up day for me.”
answer no?
Reminds me of the time my wife and daughters were out delivering shalach manos. My wife saw a young women wearing weird clothes and wished her a freilichen Purim. Apparently she looked confused. My daughters explained to my wife that the young woman wasn’t Jewish.
RY is usually joking. This is just part of his regular shtick. Everybody else lighten up…
There used to be a parade in Broad Channel Queens, and they would have floats that were highly offensive. One year they had a float “Chassidic Park”, so people really do that
I live in EY. No one has heard of halloween. Maybe you should move here.
I don’t know where you live, but your statement is incorrect. There are plenty of people here that have heard of Halloween. There are several bars in Tel Aviv that have Halloween parties.
Joseph and Goq gave the sensible answers.
Do people really ask if you’re dressed up for halloween?
That sounds very offensive, kind of like asking a woman if she’s pregnant.
Takahmamash – I don’t spend too much time in Tel Aviv (and certainly not in bars). It is definitely possible to live in EY and not know about Halloween.
btw, what IS Halloween? (j/k).
But I don’t know when it is, and I wouldn’t have remembered that it is this time of year if not for this thread.
And that is one of the nice things about living in EY! Since most Frum people don’t live in Tel Aviv. Even in Lakewood, you know when it’s Halloween.
And Purim (l’havdil) and all the Yomim Tovim are very different in EY than in chu”l. No comparison!
I (in frum America) wouldn’t have known it’s Halloween season if not for reading that fact here.
When I went to Israel a few years ago, I was fortunate enough to be there for Purim. The tour leader had told us to bring costumes if we wished and that we had the opportunity to attend the Megillah reading on Erev Purim. Most of us chose to go to shul but not all of us came in costume. However, one woman in our group walked up to a woman attending the service and gave her a huge compliment on her wonderful costume. The woman replied that she was not wearing a costume but that she was an observant Amish woman on a pilgrimage. Luckily, the “costumed” lady was not offended and shared in our laughter. BTW, Purim in Yerushalayim was like no other Purim that I had or have ever experienced. Wonderful experience!
This thread reminds me of a funny story I overheard someone tell her a friend one Purim.
She was a teacher in a not-Frum or very modern school. On Rosh Chodesh Adar, the kids come to school dressed up. One girl was wearing normal clothes, so she asked her, “Aviva, why didn’t you dress up?” Aviva responded, “I am dressed up. I’m dressed as a ‘Dosi’ (frummy).”
I guess one person’s clothes are another person’s costume! It’s actually a sad story, but it was also funny.
Kids who grow up in EY probably don’t even know what Halloween is.
Welcome back minyan gal!
Joseph, thank you. I have been lurking for awhile and finally I had something to say. It is nice to be back.
minyan gal Interesting name, does it mean you go to shul for davening. Or are you a female minyan you know like one of those small yellow men in blue coveralls.
A woman that I met in line at a store was Muslim and was fully covered. Someone walked by her and asked rhetorically, “Is it raining it?”
The lady told me that happens a lot. I said that maybe they really thought it was raining (but in retrospect I may have not only misread the comment of the commenting person, but also invalidated the lady). If it was to call her out on her religious dress, then that is def hurtful.
Meno: Yes agreed it def can come across as offensive.
lilmod ulelamaid: Omgosh that reminds me of when I was a teen and went to Chabad with baggy jeans and glitter funky makeup. This sweet little frum girl asked me, “Why are you dressed so fancy?”
Fancy I was dressed not, but I guess that was the closest thing in her vocabulary to describe my atypical style.
“I guess one person’s clothes are another person’s costume!” ~So true!
Does anyone leave treats out for thier non-jewish neighbors? I only started recently when i got “Tricked” two years ago by my next door neighbor! Me and my children were traumatized so from now on we make sure there’s treats for every kid! Now that i think about it, it does promote shalom in the neighborhood!
When I was a kid, we always gave out treats. I believe I read that Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky Zatsal did the same, so I guess that you and I are in good company.
LU
It wasnt rav Yaakov Kaminetsky, It was Rav Pam
RY
If you dont want an egg on your house or a broken window, id suggest giving. Frankly it doesnt affect me anyway as its not Halloween in my neighborhood anyway
ZD- I guess it was both then. I know I read it about Rav Yaakov and not Rav Pam. I read the story years ago before Rav Pam was nifter and people were writing stories about him, and I’d even heard of him.
“Is giving in to a threat the right reason?”
If someone held a gun to your head, and said “your money or your life”, would you give him money and why?
In this case, there may be other (perhaps better) reasons for giving, but if someone feels there is no other reason to give, this could be a good one.
I’ve never seen berka ladies in Manhattan before yesterday (Halloween). Not sure if it was a costume or not, cus she was walking with her chassidish-looking husband who was carrying a baby.
To Rebyidd: Giving in to vandalism might not be right. But being neighborly in a pluralistic nation that generally respects Jews is right.
The alternative is to give out a pamphlet explaining why, halachically, you cannot participate in a non-Jewish religious festival, which will confuse most trick-or-treaters because they are not aware of their participation in any religious festival. Have you thought of giving out chocolate-covered kreplach?
If Yidden are expected to give candy on halloween on the basis of being neighborly in a pluralistic nation, on the same token we should only expect to start doing so after goyim start giving us kosher mishloach manos every purim.
To Joseph: Re gentiles on Purim: Now you are being silly.
If Jews observed Halloween:
Hilchot Halloween:
3) One who turns off the lights and pretends to be away is called a sinner!
4) Shaving cream used for tricks does not require kosher supervision.
6) To be considered a trick, one must damage property valued at at least one perutah (approx. 5 cents). A trick must also inconvenience the victim by at least 6.7 minutes. In case of emergency, there is a lenient position of 4.8 minutes one may be allowed to rely on. Consult your Halachik authority.
7) The pumpkin should be placed on the top step, to the right of the door.
9) One does not make a blessing before trick or treating, because it is not certain that the homeowner will be home.
10) When giving candy, one must give an amount at least the size of an olive (About five candy corns.) Some are of the opinion that it has to be at least the size of an egg. (twelve candy corns.) This opinion is preferable.
11) When egging cars, one should be careful not to drop any eggs prior to throwing them. Remember, bal Tashchis!
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Except that Mishloach Manos is a Mitzvah which means that it has specific halachos. One of the halachos is that there is not Mitzvah for a Goy to give Mishlaoch Manos.
On the other hand, trick or treating is naurishkeit, which is I assume, why it’s muter to give them candy.
IM shluffin- LOL! +15
12) Shatnez may not be used for synthetic cobwebs or the combination of cobwebs and fake spiders.
13) Both shehakol and brei pri ha’aytz must be recited prior to submerging one’s face into water for apple bobbing.
Rav Pam,xt”l, and I think also Rav Yaakov Kamenetzky, zt”l, gave candy out on October 31st. They, of course, did the right thing and had the right attitude.
When people ask me, I say that for religious reasons, I don’t celebrate it, but that we happily give candy to the children who come by. We turn off our lights, leave a bowl of candy outside, and let whoever wants to take, take. There’s nothing in halacha against being a good neighbor and a pleasant person.
“Rav Pam,xt”l, and I think also Rav Yaakov Kamenetzky, zt”l, gave candy out on October 31st. They, of course, did the right thing and had the right attitude.
When people ask me, I say that for religious reasons, I don’t celebrate it, but that we happily give candy to the children who come by. We turn off our lights, leave a bowl of candy outside, and let whoever wants to take, take. There’s nothing in halacha against being a good neighbor and a pleasant person.”
Maskim.
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