October 7, 2021 8:24 am at 8:24 am #2013179
i was always wondering who makes the style, who decides what the style should be, for example who decided that the style now is brown, i see all kids wearing brown koplech, shirts, pants, shoes and everything. my kids too. but just curious who decides, why not chooses a more tasty color that horrible brownOctober 7, 2021 9:21 am at 9:21 am #2013203
A large segment of women are following the shmutzdik styles spit out from Paris. They’ll modify it a bit to make it appear less goyishdik, for example by adding something to barely cover what is supposed to never be uncovered, but the general idea is coming from Paris.October 7, 2021 10:58 am at 10:58 am #2013212
who are these paris guys deciding our styles?October 7, 2021 10:59 am at 10:59 am #2013216AviraDeArahParticipant
Ujm, OP is talking about (mainly) boro park children’s “fashion” j.e., what mothers decide wear their kids wear.
I think it comes from a few women who go down 13th avenue with 5 kids in tow, all dressed the same – at some point people start copying it and eventually it becomes the current styleOctober 7, 2021 10:59 am at 10:59 am #2013217Reb EliezerParticipant
krishtzentzuch yudentzich. We get influenced by the goyim but a smart person knows what to follow.October 7, 2021 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm #2013241Yserbius123Participant
I was once a counselor in a boys camp that rented a Heimishe girls elementary school for its grounds. According to numerous posters, signs, pamphlets, and other material. It’s “Paris” that decides fashion and everyone who isn’t a daughter of a King is a monkey that copies what Paris is doing.October 7, 2021 1:36 pm at 1:36 pm #2013267GoldilocksParticipant
It’s your choice whether or not to wear what’s in style.
I generally decide what to wear based on my own taste and comfort. And no, I haven’t been arrested. Not yet, anyway.October 7, 2021 1:36 pm at 1:36 pm #2013275ShtarkButRelatableParticipant
The liberalsOctober 7, 2021 1:38 pm at 1:38 pm #2013317
Sorry, but “Paris” is no longer where the “fashion-conscious” younger generation gets its inspiration. For today’s hipsters, the runways of Milan, Tokyo, Seoul and even NYC (Bryant Park Show outside the NYPL) are where the new trends are quickly identified and copied in knockoffs that show up in discount stores and online retailers within weeks. Even in the frum neighborhoods, you may see certain colors and accessories featured in these shows adopted within the confines what is deemed tziniusdik. Even frum kids want to be “cool” while not standing out or violating the unwritten dress codes of their yeshivos or BYs.October 7, 2021 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm #2013348
Avira, ich farshtay. I wanted to raise a more relevant and consequential discussion on a tangential issue.October 7, 2021 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #2013355
why do over 95% of kids wear now brown cloth, shoes, koplech etc. just because some idiot decided that this is now the styleOctober 7, 2021 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm #2013375
If 95% of the kids are all wearing the “SAME brown koplech”, maybe that guy isn’t such an “idiot” (assuming he/she has found a way to monetize his/her fashionista theme.October 7, 2021 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #2013369
GHadora: You seem, uh, a bit too familiar about where exactly all the prutzas head down the runway to show off their guf.October 10, 2021 8:04 am at 8:04 am #2013982
gadolhadorah: > If 95% of the kids are all wearing the “SAME brown koplech”, maybe that guy isn’t such an “idiot” (assuming he/she has found a way to monetize his/her fashionista theme
this means that 95% of the worlds are idiots who follow these weirdos and their ugly taste of styleOctober 10, 2021 10:27 am at 10:27 am #2013997philosopherParticipant
Paris is not the headquarters for fashion for many years already.
If a style is nice and tzniusdig I have no problem with it. The weird thing is when people just buy stuff cause they see others wearing it or it’s in the stores and it’s ugly and doesn’t suit them. For example, these two piece shapeless outfits and shapeless dresses with ugly flower patterns on the fabric that look like they were shlepped out of my great, great grandmother’s basement. They just looks absolutely stupid. This season I’ve seen knitted vests made of thick yarn added to these outfits. Really?! Wearing the outfits that our great-grandmother’s wore wouldn’t occur to anyone but if the stores sell it it must be “in” and if some buy it cause it’s “in” then everyone else has to wear it and it becomes “really pretty”. Uch, monkey see, monkey do makes me want to vomit.October 10, 2021 10:27 am at 10:27 am #2014005commonsaychelParticipant
“this means that 95% of the worlds are idiots who follow these weirdos and their ugly taste of style”
What pretty much summerizes it in 30 secinds or lessOctober 10, 2021 11:18 am at 11:18 am #2014086
Philosopher: Halevay all Yiddishe maidelech today dressed like your great-grandmother. That would be a vast improvement.October 10, 2021 11:19 am at 11:19 am #2014078you_seriousParticipant
ujm. mind your own business.October 10, 2021 11:30 am at 11:30 am #2014104
y_s: No, I won’t. Because Klal Yisroel’s business IS my business.October 10, 2021 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm #2014135philosopherParticipant
Ujm, ok so I guess you support the new “style”.
Why stop at my great-grandmother, dressing like our ancestors Sura, Rivka, Ruchal and Leah would be better, no?October 10, 2021 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm #2014125LostsparkParticipant
Philosopher: The floral grandmother style came into shape when frum women started buying tznius clothes from mormons on the internet and in turn began funding Mormon causes.October 10, 2021 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #2014194
Based on his prior comments I suspect the women in UJM’s circle are among those 95 percent of followers of one of the most well known and iconic fashion designers of the modern era who just coincidentally happens to be a musmach of the Yeshiva of Flatbush….(As we know, UJM is the common acronym for Uninformed Jewish Male)
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