Bekius Gemorah Shuir with Rashi

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  • #616443
    ovadiayosefrocks
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    There are many Shuirim online but the issue is that the maggedi shurim dont read the Rashi inside anyone know of such a shuir?

    #1112211
    Student of Torah
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    isn’t bekius just gemara without rashi?

    #1112212
    ovadiayosefrocks
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    nope

    #1112213

    Yup

    #1112214
    Meno
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    How can you learn Gemara without Rashi?

    #1112215
    son
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    How can you learn Gemara without Rashi?

    B”H there are words in the middle of the page too.

    They were also there before Rashi was introduced to the layout.

    #1112216
    apushatayid
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    why do you think the maggid shiur didnt learn rashi? perhaps what bothers you is that the maggid shiur isnt reading the rashi word for word as well? if you want such a shiur, join a 5th grade class in most boys yeshivas.

    #1112217
    Meno
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    apushatayid, I don’t think your comment was very nice.

    #1112218
    son
    Member

    why do you think the maggid shiur didnt learn rashi?

    He didn’t say that. He said he was looking for a shiur that the magid shiur goes through rashi inside.

    #1112219
    apushatayid
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    “He didn’t say that. He said he was looking for a shiur that the magid shiur goes through rashi inside.”

    Why do you assume I was responding to the OP?

    “Not very nice”

    Why do you make silly assumptions?

    #1112220
    son
    Member

    Why do you assume I was responding to the OP?

    The second half of your statement didn’t look like it was addressing Meno as he didn’t say he was looking for a shiur and my presumption was that everything you said was directed at one person.

    I’m not sure who else you might have been addressing.

    I must be missing the peirush Rashi on this thread.

    #1112221
    apushatayid
    Participant

    Dont spend too much time looking for it.

    #1112222
    Bentch Kvetcher
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    I’ve always wanted to give such a shiur but there isn’t much interest I don’t understand why.

    #1112223
    newbee
    Member

    apushatayid: ” if you want such a shiur, join a 5th grade class in most boys yeshivas.”

    Rashi, moed katan 9b

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    #1112224
    Incremental
    Member

    Rabbi Leff has an Amud Yomi shiur on his website. In addition to reading and explaining the Gemara, he also reads and translates Rashi.

    #1112225
    Sam2
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    son: If you learn the Gemara without Rashi (/any Peirush) then you’re probably learning the Gemara wrong. R’ Moshe says you cannot make a Siyum on learning Gemara without Rashi.

    #1112226
    son
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    Sam2: I’m not against Rashi (or any other peirush), I simply think that it’s important to figure out how you might read a gemara before approaching rishonim, and to compare and contrast once you’ve seen whichever rishonim you might see to figure out “what did I read differently”.

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