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  • #2061899
    rightwriter
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    What are some of the best or worst inventions in your opinion that have changed, affected, or impacted the world and people in general for the good or the bad?

    #2061963
    Johnny Picklesauce
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    Sliced bread.

    #2061974
    Sam Klein
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    The smartphone

    Best invention for many reasons

    And worst invention for other reasons including the tumah that it’s all filled with and much more

    #2062039
    Reb Eliezer
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    Three things were shown in fire to Moshe Rabbenu, machtzis hashekel, the levana, and the menorah. They can all be used for good or bad as fire, money, time and the Torah.

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    #2062046
    ujm
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    Television was one of the worst inventions until the Internet came out and outranked it as worse.

    #2062058
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Where does it say that the levana was shown in fire

    And the menorah wasn’t shown in fire it was made from throwing gold in the fire

    #2062062
    huju
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    1. Saran Wrap.

    2. Liquid Prell.

    #2062112
    Reb Eliezer
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    I have to agree as it does not mention others besides the machtzis hashekel in fire and not mention it at at all in Menochos (29,1). It mentions sheratzim which I don’t see its benefit. They all say ‘zeh’ so they were shown to Mpshe Rabbenu but whether in fire or not I don’t know.

    #2062125
    rightwriter
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    Air conditioner, refrigerator as some of the best inventions?

    #2062123
    Gadolhadorah
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    Scotch

    #2062137
    AviraDeArah
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    Penicillin, indoor plumbing, cars, are among the most useful l can think of

    Worst would be the Internet, nuclear and biological weapons, and ivrit

    #2062144
    ujm
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    Smallpox vaccine was one of the best.

    #2062154
    rightwriter
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    Ujm, not the Covid vaxx?

    #2062155

    significant ones, ordered by time, more or less, not dividing into bad and good:
    wheel (Amerindians did not), alef-beis, paper, military horse saddle, growing beans with wheat (responsible for growth of Northern Europe and Ashkenazim), long bow, printing press, marine chronometer (enabled measuring longitude and actually going to an exact location), steam engine, electricity, cotton gin (American thingy), radio, federal reserve (economic stability), Kalashnikov, potential functions and support vector machines (first serious machine learning technology), PC, Netscape browser (rather than internet, making it available to non-geeks), altavista search engine (first working one), zoom

    #2062153

    I thin Bava Metzia talks that things are not usually bad by themselves, depends on who and how is using them. Nuclear weapons ended WW2 in Pacific quickly and probably prevented USSR from occupying a lot of countries thereafter. Internet gave a lot of poor people access to information and education; people in China access to less filtered news. Jewish kids can get access to quality professional education without stepping into a campus with a lot of noreshkeit; people in Brooklyn can write on YWN about what they hate without leaving their heder.

    #2062189
    rightwriter
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    Avira i think indoor plumbing is less an invention more of just making existing things more convenient. Pipelines arent really invention category.

    #2062190
    ujm
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    RW: The smallpox vaccine literally saved tens of millions of people.

    #2062235
    akuperma
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    worst: gunpowder, nuclear energy, alcohol, social media
    best: antibiotics, printing, writing, anesthesia, alcohol

    #2062285
    rightwriter
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    ujm-“RW: The smallpox vaccine literally saved tens of millions of people.”

    -and the Covid vaxx?

    #2062300
    justlookingin
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    Unfortunately according to the Gemara, humans are on list of bad things invented.

    #2062305
    rightwriter
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    Just lookin, what is the source. Is the Gemara saying Hashem made a wrong decision in creating humans?

    #2062302
    ujm
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    rw: smallpox was far deadlier and its vaccine was far more a lifesaver than the Covid vaccines.

    #2062314
    rightwriter
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    Ujm, conspiracy! Smallpox only required one vaccine while COVID requires 4 and counting. How can you say smallpox was worse?

    #2062324
    AviraDeArah
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    It doesn’t say Hashem made a mistake cv”s. It says נח לו לאדם שלא נברא, that it is better off “for a person”, to have never been created. This means that from our limited vantage point, it appears to us as if it is so, because we have more of an opportunity to fall than to rise to greatness.

    #2062361
    fghij
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    @ujm – Smallpox vaccine, which was created in 1798 did not stop the peak of the 2510 deaths of small pox as that peaked in 1902 – according to the CDN. So that wouldn’t necessarily be the greatest invention unless you benefited from that vaccine monetarily.

    #2062383
    Reb Eliezer
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    Better off means easier not better as we would earn a nehameh dekesufa, bread of shame getting rewarded and not doing anything.

    #2062384
    Reb Eliezer
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    What about polio vaccine of Jonas Salk, a Jew?

    #2062448

    I forgot fertilizer (Fritz Haber) in ~ 1910 – saved billions of lives from starvation. On the least of most forgotten greatest inventions. Stricken out of history for being a German patriot during WW1 and inventing poison gas. He fully did teshuva though for his German sympathies before his death in the 30s.

    #2062449
    rightwriter
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    Avirah that’s a different topic. You said that creation of man was worst invention. That’s different than saying a human feels regret about being created.

    #2062553
    5TResident
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    Best invention: Indoor plumbing. People take it for granted. My mother grew up in a little town in Eastern Europe and she had an outhouse in her backyard. She’d tell me about having to visit the outhouse in the middle of the night in the winter.

    Worst invention: Social media. It gives a voice to people who really shouldn’t have one.

    #2062591
    Reb Eliezer
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    Best Inventions: Penicillin and antibiotics.

    #2062694
    amom
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    I agree with the indoor plumbing.
    I was on the way to Mezhibiz and needed a restroom. Lo and behold there was only an outhouse.
    It was DISGUSTING. UUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
    Indoor plumbing= best invention ever!!!!
    Worst invention- social media, covid vaccine

    #2062696
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Add credit cards to the bad list

    #2062697
    rightwriter
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    amom – why is the covid vaxxine worst invention you should be happy that there is a vaccine for a virus that requires booster shots every 2 months!

    #2062705
    amom
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    RW- You know why?
    Because it made a lot of enemies.
    People seriously believe that if you are anti-vax you are spreading disinformation and causing the virus to continue and if you are pro-vax then you are out to kill the world and force everyone to give over their rights.
    It made people believe that anyone on the other side is out to get them and hates them.
    Worst invention ever vaccine- it divided and bought hate to an already divided world.
    Let’s hope that as Jews we can put this aside and love each other despite views on covid, masks and vaccines.

    #2062712

    indoor plumbing – invented at least 2,000 years ago in Rome, but Rashbi criticized all their inventions. But people lived with outdoor plumbing and had no problems with it. So your disgust would not exist without being exposed to indoor plumbing. Another one of Roman inventions – well-paved and straight roads: using several layers of different materials and special instrument and work process to make roads precisely straight and digging up the obstacles.

    Credit cards – credit in general enabled society to live way better, and Jews were in front of this banking revolution for centuries. Without credit, men would need to work 10-20 years before getting a house and then marrying.

    Covid vaccine – I think saving millions of lives is worth irritating people who do not believe in them. You speak like a gemora that saving one life is saving a whole world is not in your religion.

    #2062910
    moishekapoieh
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    best: the toilet (no more going to outhouses!!!!!)

    #2063064

    @Always Ironically, The institute founded by Fritz Haber, Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung mbH (Degesch), developed Zyklon A and later Zyklon B, directly based on his prior research.

    #2063095

    Yes, I mentioned Haber’s connection to poison. He stopped at home after testing gas on the western front on the way to eastern, and his wife committed suicide because of this issue… He was one of the last Jews still employed in Germany – due to his stature, and he made a huge effort to help his fired employees to find jobs in other countries. Weitzman invited him to rehovot, but he died in Switzerland from a heart attack

    #2063096

    Light? Chagiga 12, Hashem hid it so it will not be misused by reshoyim. Whether it is laser, nuclear, or radio….

    #2065072
    rightwriter
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    Batteries

    #2065147
    Gadolhadorah
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    The internet. Al Gore rarely gets credit for his role in the most transformational technology since Guttenberg and the printing press.

    #2065244
    GadolHadofi
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    Dorah,

    No worries, Al Gore has already taken plenty of credit for creating the Internet, just one of the many lies he’s told. The Internet was created in 1969 and Gore sponsored some bills in the 1980’s.

    #2065274
    Gadolhadorah
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    Dofi: Well not exactly….Most computer scientists would consider January 83 as the official start of what we know today as ” the Internet” For over a decade prior to that time, there were various computer “intranet” networks of varying scale that did not have a standard way to communicate with each other. The creation and commercial availablility of a new communications protocol called Transfer Control Protocol/Internetwork Protocol (TCP/IP) is generally considered the starting point although I’m sure there are other milestone dates earlier that could be invoked. But I’m equally sure Al Gore will take credit for those as well.

    #2065368

    Latest increased appreciation: drones and molotov cocktails

    #2066598
    Redleg
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    A few points:
    1. Indoor plumbing, and, by extension, public sanitation has saved more lives than all the doctors, medicines and vaccines ever developed. While the Romans were innovators, the concept fell into disuse after the fall of Rome and was not revived in Europe until the late 18th Century of the Common era.
    2. Wile the Romans were great innovators in engineering, all and other fields. Their most important invention, one that, even today, the world today would be very different without, is one that very few people recognize as a Roman invention. The Romans invented concrete. Where would we be today without it?

    #2066743
    rightwriter
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    Covid

    #2066767
    Kuvult
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    Lifetime Kollel

    #2066925
    Yserbius123
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    In the 1960s there was this growing fear of a “population bomb”. With medical advances ensuring that almost all children live to adulthood, the population exploded. Which was a great thing. Until people realized that there all these extra mouths to feed and just as much arable land as there was before. Panic set in and charts predicted that it will be twenty years until we can no longer feed everyone and be forced to resort to drastic measures.

    Enter Norman Borlaug.

    By genetically engineering food crops, like corn and wheat, Borlaug invented a way to produce far more food on just as much farmland as before. The crisis was solved and this unassuming Norwegian-American scientist quietly saved the world.

    #2068888
    Zushy
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    best invention :YWN coffeeroom

    worst : my filter which normally keeps me out

    Best invention : velcro shoes

    worst: rebbes and teachers who confiscated them in school

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