Best Minyan for a modern orthodox jew in Lakewood Jackson Brick area??

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  • #1341271

    RebAvrom
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    Yeyasher Kochahcu in advance.

    #1341436

    Joseph
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    I hear that MO Yidden are fully accepted to daven, and (gasp) even to join, *any* shul in the area.

    #1341459

    iacisrmma
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    I think you may want to narrow down your search area. You are covering a pretty large area in square miles.

    #1341601

    RebAvrom
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    kal vachomer: if I cant get a response withe a pretty large area in square mils, is it logical to get a response within a greater area or a smaller area? I would think there are more shuls in a larger area .

    #1341604

    Joseph
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    Do you plan on walking from Brick to Jackson twice every Shabbos?

    #1341623

    dovrosenbaum
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    Sons of Israel in Manalapan

    #1341635

    RebAvrom
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    I will move to an area that is within walking distance to the minyan.

    #1341767

    iacisrmma
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    RebAvrom: Now that you clarified that you will move to a certain area near the shul, it will be easier for those who live there to guide you. Personally, I am not sure that there is a “best”. I personally have some “shiechas” with the family of R’ Shlomo Gissinger of Congregation Khal Zichron Yaakov and you may want to call him for guidance.

    #1341808

    Joseph
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    I’m glad my question led the OP to clarify his intent to move, which was a necessary piece of missing information to address his original question.

    #1342670

    What are you looking for in a minyan (and what brings you to the area)?

    #1342768

    RebAvrom
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    I found a job in the area. I don’t want to be the oisvurf where everybody looks down at me for not wearing a hat. Maybe I should just put on a hat?

    #1342779

    Joseph
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    “Maybe I should just put on a hat?”

    Not a bad idea! Putting on a hat for davening in Shul is respectful when speaking to the King of Kings.

    And isn’t even that hard!

    #1342903

    yytz
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    Just as many of the details of tznius are considered dat yehudis instead of dat Moshe (women should dress according to the tznius standards of the community in which they live), it makes sense to adopt the levush of your community, if the vast majority dress a certain way, unless you have a specific levush you are already particular about. “Do not separate yourself from the community.” Avos.

    I live in a diverse area, but if I lived in an area where everyone dressed in a certain style I would probably do so as well. It’s not that hard to wear a hat (and velvet kippa, or whatever), as long as it doesn’t bother you and your family. Just a thought!

    Hatzlacha with your move and finding the right shul for you!

    #1343026

    RebAvrom
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    Thanks to all for your helpful responses. Seems like the simplest solution is to move anywhere and put on a hat.

    #1343093

    iacisrmma
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    Also remember a white shirt.

    #1343096

    Joseph
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    On Shabbos. During the week I think you’ll find people in blue (etc.) shirts as well.

    #1343115

    Gadolhadorah
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    If the minhag in the alte heim when entering the court of a king was to REMOVE your hat or head covering, why is the mesorah to wear a hat when davening to show respect for hashem, melech malchei ha’malachim???

    #1343117

    searchin345
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    really depends on the shul. In some places you might be “that guy who went off”, but in others you might be “that cool guy who doesn’t care so he wears a small velvet/knitted kippah”. Hatzlacha on the move.

    #1343128

    Joseph
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    GHadorah, that was the goyishe “minhag”, certainly not the yiddishe minhag.

    #1343269

    YesOrNo
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    Chabad of Lakewood
    1309 Central Ave
    Shachris M-F 7:00 & 7:45
    S 7:45 & 8:30
    Mincha/Mariv S-Th 10 minutes before Shkia
    Shabbat Shacharis 10:00
    All Welcome

    #1343482

    iacisrmma
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    GH: See Mishna Berurah 91:4 and Sif Koton Yud Beis (12).

    http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49623&st=&pgnum=244

    #1345322

    Avram in MD
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    Gadolhadorah,

    If the minhag in the alte heim when entering the court of a king was to REMOVE your hat or head covering, why is the mesorah to wear a hat when davening to show respect for hashem, melech malchei ha’malachim???

    Do you think Judaism originated in Europe? The custom to remove headgear likely originated as a sign of respect/subservience – a knight or warrior removing his helm to show identity, respect, and vulnerability. In ancient Rome on the other hand, covering one’s head showed subservience, which noblemen didn’t like to do, but it happens to be exactly what we are intending to convey by covering our heads before Hashem.

    #1346472

    According to my father, the shul in Lakewood where you’d be most comfortable
    without a hat is Congregation Sons of Israel (590 Madison Avenue).

    #1346493

    Joseph
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    Congregation Sons of Israel has been in Lakewood for about 100 years.

    #1347336

    Not at that location, though. The “Old Shul,” as it is known, is at the corner of Ridge Ave., Park Ave., and 4th St.

    Is there any way for you to know if the OP saw my post, mods?

    #1347483

    funnybone
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    Any shul will accept you. I daven in a shul yeshivish to chassidish and we have some people who dont wear a hat.

    #1347686

    jakob
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    congregation sons of Israel went from MO to yeshivish, today they are a full black hatter shul with barely a few no hatter people left, the MO of the lakewood community were either holocaust survivors that were niftar over the past 20 tears or their children all got married & went to live in a more MO community like edison or highland park or Teaneck NJ ETC…. i watched as the MO of lakewood got less & less until it was gone. Its only a matter of time before cong. sons of Israel becomes CHASIDISH there are already a few people with streimels that daven there.

    Yes that is th e history of the 1st frum Lakewood shul & Lakewood dayschool That the Rosh Yeshiva of BMG Rabbi AM Kotler went to that today is not open anymore & instead a new frum cheder is there instead

    #1347709

    Joseph
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    Many of the MO, especially their children, became yeshivish themselves. This should be appreciated.

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