August 17, 2017 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #1341271
Yeyasher Kochahcu in advance.August 17, 2017 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #1341436
I hear that MO Yidden are fully accepted to daven, and (gasp) even to join, *any* shul in the area.August 17, 2017 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #1341459
I think you may want to narrow down your search area. You are covering a pretty large area in square miles.August 18, 2017 12:30 am at 12:30 am #1341601
kal vachomer: if I cant get a response withe a pretty large area in square mils, is it logical to get a response within a greater area or a smaller area? I would think there are more shuls in a larger area .August 18, 2017 12:52 am at 12:52 am #1341604
Do you plan on walking from Brick to Jackson twice every Shabbos?August 18, 2017 1:03 am at 1:03 am #1341623
Sons of Israel in ManalapanAugust 18, 2017 1:33 am at 1:33 am #1341635
I will move to an area that is within walking distance to the minyan.August 18, 2017 10:17 am at 10:17 am #1341767
RebAvrom: Now that you clarified that you will move to a certain area near the shul, it will be easier for those who live there to guide you. Personally, I am not sure that there is a “best”. I personally have some “shiechas” with the family of R’ Shlomo Gissinger of Congregation Khal Zichron Yaakov and you may want to call him for guidance.August 18, 2017 11:00 am at 11:00 am #1341808
I’m glad my question led the OP to clarify his intent to move, which was a necessary piece of missing information to address his original question.August 18, 2017 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #1342670
What are you looking for in a minyan (and what brings you to the area)?August 19, 2017 11:36 pm at 11:36 pm #1342768
I found a job in the area. I don’t want to be the oisvurf where everybody looks down at me for not wearing a hat. Maybe I should just put on a hat?August 19, 2017 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm #1342779
“Maybe I should just put on a hat?”
Not a bad idea! Putting on a hat for davening in Shul is respectful when speaking to the King of Kings.
And isn’t even that hard!August 20, 2017 11:39 am at 11:39 am #1342903
Just as many of the details of tznius are considered dat yehudis instead of dat Moshe (women should dress according to the tznius standards of the community in which they live), it makes sense to adopt the levush of your community, if the vast majority dress a certain way, unless you have a specific levush you are already particular about. “Do not separate yourself from the community.” Avos.
I live in a diverse area, but if I lived in an area where everyone dressed in a certain style I would probably do so as well. It’s not that hard to wear a hat (and velvet kippa, or whatever), as long as it doesn’t bother you and your family. Just a thought!
Hatzlacha with your move and finding the right shul for you!August 20, 2017 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm #1343026
Thanks to all for your helpful responses. Seems like the simplest solution is to move anywhere and put on a hat.August 20, 2017 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #1343093
Also remember a white shirt.August 20, 2017 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #1343096
On Shabbos. During the week I think you’ll find people in blue (etc.) shirts as well.August 20, 2017 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #1343115
If the minhag in the alte heim when entering the court of a king was to REMOVE your hat or head covering, why is the mesorah to wear a hat when davening to show respect for hashem, melech malchei ha’malachim???August 20, 2017 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #1343117
really depends on the shul. In some places you might be “that guy who went off”, but in others you might be “that cool guy who doesn’t care so he wears a small velvet/knitted kippah”. Hatzlacha on the move.August 20, 2017 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm #1343128
GHadorah, that was the goyishe “minhag”, certainly not the yiddishe minhag.August 21, 2017 12:46 am at 12:46 am #1343269
Chabad of Lakewood
1309 Central Ave
Shachris M-F 7:00 & 7:45
S 7:45 & 8:30
Mincha/Mariv S-Th 10 minutes before Shkia
Shabbat Shacharis 10:00
All WelcomeAugust 21, 2017 10:32 am at 10:32 am #1343482
GH: See Mishna Berurah 91:4 and Sif Koton Yud Beis (12).August 22, 2017 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm #1345322
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If the minhag in the alte heim when entering the court of a king was to REMOVE your hat or head covering, why is the mesorah to wear a hat when davening to show respect for hashem, melech malchei ha’malachim???
Do you think Judaism originated in Europe? The custom to remove headgear likely originated as a sign of respect/subservience – a knight or warrior removing his helm to show identity, respect, and vulnerability. In ancient Rome on the other hand, covering one’s head showed subservience, which noblemen didn’t like to do, but it happens to be exactly what we are intending to convey by covering our heads before Hashem.August 23, 2017 5:16 pm at 5:16 pm #1346472
According to my father, the shul in Lakewood where you’d be most comfortable
without a hat is Congregation Sons of Israel (590 Madison Avenue).August 23, 2017 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #1346493
Congregation Sons of Israel has been in Lakewood for about 100 years.August 25, 2017 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #1347336
Not at that location, though. The “Old Shul,” as it is known, is at the corner of Ridge Ave., Park Ave., and 4th St.
Is there any way for you to know if the OP saw my post, mods?August 25, 2017 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #1347483
Any shul will accept you. I daven in a shul yeshivish to chassidish and we have some people who dont wear a hat.August 26, 2017 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm #1347686
congregation sons of Israel went from MO to yeshivish, today they are a full black hatter shul with barely a few no hatter people left, the MO of the lakewood community were either holocaust survivors that were niftar over the past 20 tears or their children all got married & went to live in a more MO community like edison or highland park or Teaneck NJ ETC…. i watched as the MO of lakewood got less & less until it was gone. Its only a matter of time before cong. sons of Israel becomes CHASIDISH there are already a few people with streimels that daven there.
Yes that is th e history of the 1st frum Lakewood shul & Lakewood dayschool That the Rosh Yeshiva of BMG Rabbi AM Kotler went to that today is not open anymore & instead a new frum cheder is there insteadAugust 27, 2017 12:21 am at 12:21 am #1347709
Many of the MO, especially their children, became yeshivish themselves. This should be appreciated.
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