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    notedaskan
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    Is it right to build a big fancy house in a neighborhood where everyone is simple people?

    #718651

    it looks silly, huge mansions next to modest homes….

    #718652
    dunno
    Member

    You’ll probably feel pretty stupid but I don’t think it’s a matter of right and wrong.

    #718653
    popa_bar_abba
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    Yes. It is fine.

    #718654
    bezalel
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    Why would you want to live in a neighborhood that has different values than yours?

    #718655
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    The contrary. Usually, they want to live in that neighborhood because they have the same values.

    #718656
    notedaskan
    Member

    There is a neighborhood near me where the average house is about 3500 square ft. and they are simple houses and someone is putting up a 7000 square foot home.

    #718657
    blueprints
    Participant

    How likely are you to make a decision based on what anyone here says???

    #718658
    aries2756
    Participant

    Do they have a an extra large family? Are they building a larger home because they plan to have room for the grandkids I”H, or because they host zedaka parties or host gedolim and therefor NEED more room? Are they making room for parents? Or for out-of-town family?

    Are you going on the premise that they THINK they are better than the rest of you or are they smart in this economy that they can get more for their money right now, so why not think ahead? Just because it is large and spacious does that automatically mean that it is also fancy and ostentatious?

    #718659
    apushatayid
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    Why do you care how big the house is?

    #718661
    Midwest2
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    Is it a matter of “big” or a matter of “fancy.” Someone with ten kids may want a big house. That’s different from having gold-plated water faucets (yep, seen those) or designer brick work or two-ton chandeliers – that’s “fancy.”

    The real issue is life-style. Are they going to put pressure on their less affluent neighbors to compete with them?

    #718662
    tzippi
    Member

    Why is this any skin off of your nose?

    #718663
    bezalel
    Participant

    Why is this any skin off of your nose?

    Because he doesn’t want an eyesore.

    #718664
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Because he doesn’t want an eyesore.

    I don’t believe that. I think he is jealous.

    #718665
    wanderingchana
    Participant

    3500 sf is not an average house!

    #718666
    Poster
    Member

    I know someone who bought a new house. They saved up and got a really good deal on a big, fixed up house from someone who needed instant cash. Imagine this – she said she is embarrassed to move cuz pple will talk – “why do they need such a big house”

    “are they trying to pop our eyes out” etc.

    No, pple don’t want you to be jealous of them. They do what works for them and what they feel is comfortable for them. By your talking and analyzing, YOU, with your small house, create the pressure.

    #718667
    real-brisker
    Member

    notedasken – “and somoene is putting up a 7000 square foot home” What do you care what somone else is doing?

    #718668
    artchill
    Participant

    Make sure to stock up on lots of Roiteh Bendlach, you’ll need it.

    It apparently shtuchs the eyes of the neighbors who are living a more pashut life. PLUS, as a result of your big, facy house, THEIR TAXES GO UP TOO. So they see your monstrosity, get no benefit from you coming into their area, and have to pay for your lifestyle too, That’s a LOT to ask for.

    #718669
    pabpab
    Member

    Living in a big house is awesome. Who cares if the guy next to you can’t afford it?

    #718670
    ronrsr
    Member

    no emotion will depress you quite as fast as envy.

    #718671
    notedaskan
    Member

    I said 3500 sf is the average in that neighborhood and the taxes will increase.

    #718672
    Midwest2
    Participant

    Hadn’t thought of the tax angle (don’t own a house). So yes, that’a a reason to be concerned. Check with your local tax authorities to see if there’s any way you can prevent it affecting your own tax rate. I sometimes do statistics, and adding one very large value into a group can drag the average really really high – not so good for the “typical” homeowners.

    #718673
    ronrsr
    Member

    over the last 40 years in America, the average new house has been getting larger. Our expectations change and we are unwilling to live as compactly as our grandparents did.

    How many people lived in your grandparents’ home? How many live in your home (adjust for square footage). Did your grandparents have a game room? a home office? a room for the pets?

    The good news is that the trend seems to have peaked, and we are seeing fewer of these McMansions than in the past decade.

    #718674
    nfgo3
    Member

    Torah tells us not to covet, and so those of us “simple people” who object to our neighbor’s having a bigger house should remind ourselves of that. Torah also tells us to be modest, but if Hashem has blessed us with many children and the means to house them comfortably, and we are discreet in our design, there is no Torahic reason not to build a big house anywhere.

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