Bitul Zman & Bitul Torah

learn how to appreciate every moment of life by treating every day/hour as another gift from Hashem that you should live another hour/day. Hashem doesn’t just say this person will live to 113 & this one to 102 etc… every day is another gezeira that you should live another day “uvacharta bachaim…. you should choose life” & spend your time of life wisely. Wisely does not need to mean learning & doing mitzvos 24-7, going shopping is also spending your time wisely. just don’t waste it & soon you will start to appreciate every minute more that you are alive that YOU WILL NOT LET YOUR TIME BE WASTED doing nothing.

Dont wait until your 60-as most people do-before realizing & not believing that 60 years of my precious life are gone gone forever…. even if your 40 you still have 20 more years of your full life (where a person can do everything from 20-60 before starting old age & stopping doing things as a person gets older & older every year) to use it wisely

Hatzlacha

I think to avoid it would take too much time and that is bittul zman

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“Loosen up, LuL.” I’m asking a question, which I think is a very legitimate one. Saying it’s the internet and a chat site and not a classroom does not answer the question. A Jew is a Jew wherever he is and has to be prepared to answer questions like that (although not to me necessarily, but no one was forced to answer).

The rest of your post did answer the question. Thank you. And so did your post, Joseph, to some extent (although it doesn’t answer for the non-Limud Torah parts).

Again, it was a question, not a criticism.

And by the way, just for the record, I consider the whole world to be a classroom of sorts, both for teaching and for learning. That is what we are in the world for. And hence, my name.

Golfer – he was serious about “malbin sheenayim”. And I think Joseph was too. I took them both seriously – why not? They are both right.

btw, “malbin sheenayim” is a quote from Chazal about the importance of “smiling at others” or in other words, making people happy.

“I’m going to be dan l’kaf adam normali and figure you said that in the spirit of LF’s comment to be malbin our sheenayim.”

I just chapped what you meant, Golfer. I still disagree, in any case, at least about Joseph’s intentions.

Joseph, was that a rhetorical question?

In case not- I guess you might give them some credit as Limud Torah but it’s a bit of a stretch, no?

And you have to admit- the vast majority of the threads are not discussions that fit the bill.

There is the occasional nice little vort on the Parsha or Halachic thread discussing real Halacha, so I’ll give you a weak- yes, could be.

Joseph, it is true that there are some discussions here that are somewhat Torahdik and may be better than others, but I think the point is that one would probably be accomplishing more by sitting and learning a blatt Gemara (and t/f that argument does not suffice in and of itself).

One thing that I find hard to understand (and again, I am not criticizing since I do not know everyone’s circumstances and cheshbonos nor do I know what I would do in such a situation) is that I find it hard to understand why married people spend time here. As a single girl, I get lonely and need an outlet, etc, but I would hope that if I were married, I would not spend time talking to strangers instead of spending time with my family. I am sure that it would bother me if my husband spent time talking to strangers instead of talking to me or our kids or helping me (or learning).

Again, I am not criticizing anyone since I do not know anyone’s circumstances and cheshbonos, and obviously, everyone has his own cheshbonos.

Seems like someone came on the scene to chase everyone else away!!!

I bet It is Time’s Zeide could have given some solid good answers to the OP’s question.

LF- I am writing this here because I don’t know where else to write it. I just wanted to let you know that although I do not remember exactly what I wrote that the moderators felt a need to edit on the other thread (I actually was surprised that they did so and think they may have misunderstood something), I can assure you that nothing I wrote could possibly have been meant to offend you in any way.

I have always had the highest regard for you. Anything I wrote was due to the fact that I hold you in the highest regard and therefore assumed that you are the type of person who would want to be informed if there was a misunderstanding and he inadvertantly offended someone. If that is not the case, then I do apologize for saying something as there would be no point. But I really do find it hard to believe that my opinion of you until now has not been justified.

It is a personal attack for someone to repeatedly insist that you have no cheilik in Olam Haba.

It is no more a personal attack on you than your saying he was motzi shem ra was a personal attack on him.

In fact, you should be thanking him for pointing out that you were malbin p’nei chaveiro so that you can apologize and correct your behavior and avoid gehinnom.

(Based on:

I do have to say that I am puzzled by the fact that you have not once thanked me for trying to spare you from Gehinnom!!! Aren’t you happy that I let you know that what you said was Motzi Sheim Ra so that you can try to have it deleted and avoid gehinnom?)

I personally follow my Rav the Admor Yosef and follow what he does as it is great kovad to follow in the footsteps of the Rav

Joseph, No.

Perhaps you’d like to reread the post about It is Time’s Zeide.

It seems clear he was a Talmid Chacham, not a B–s fan.

(I’m sorry it took me so long to answer you. It’s hard to notice posts or get a word in edgewise around here with all the discussion of who insulted whom, and who’s losing their Cheilek Le’Oha”b, and all the rest of it…)

“That was not the topic here and was not mentioned here, so it did not belong here”

I suppose you are right.

“In any case, if someone tells you that you are speaking LH, the response should not be to ignore it. The response should either be to say, “you are right, thank you for pointing it out.” Or to say, “thank you for pointing it out, but I don’t think it is LH because of ____.”.

What if someone think it’s not LH but have no wish to get into an argument about that? In that case the best thing would be to say “thank you for caring. I don’t think it’s LH and I would like to carry on my conversation now” (I can see how “ignore” might not express this) If that was the approach taken by some posters here it would have saved a lot of fights and harsh words.

Person1- That is definitely a better approach than some others. But I think the best approach is to explain WHY you don’t think it’s LH.

That thread is closed, sorry

I have been trying to stop using smileys but now people can’t tell when I’m joking. So I either have to go back to using smileys or come up with something else.

BG- The basic Halacha for men is that they have an obligation to learn Torah every second. But they are allowed to stop learning for any Mitzvah that can’t be performed by someone else. If going to the chasuna was a Mitzvah that couldn’t be performed by someone else, then it was allowed.

I assume that usually when people go to chasunas it is for the purpose of being mesameach the chasan and/or kallah which is a Mitzvah that can’t be done by someone else.