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    Is it kdai for bochurim to be using YWN coffee room during bein hazmanim? there are many other things they can be doing with their time (like helping their mother prepare for pesach) and it can only lead to bad things.

    #2076402
    ujm
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    In the early days of the coffee room it was chock full of young maidelech. (Check the decade old threads.)

    #2076407
    dry sense of humor
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    i think its kdai… nu its hock and zeh hoo

    #2076467

    ujm: well now its full of bochurim who waste time and men whos only goal in life is to call out trolls

    #2076468

    drysenseofhumor: why hock online when you can hock in person

    #2076834
    leiby
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    is it kdai for anyone? always anti-bochurim discrimination, why are bochurim always held to a differant standard when if anything its harder for them.

    #2076887
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “why hock online when you can hock in person“

    Anonymity helps with the hocking

    #2076905
    Gadolhadorah
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    On the “Bitul Torah Meter”, there are considerably higher scoring endeavors than responding to UJM Trolls since they almost all contain a kernel of daas torah or a vert worth considering before drafting a disparaging response.

    #2077310
    Katonti
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    Rabboisai, Bein Hazmanim is not a time of “bli zman” but a זמן בפני עצמו! And the zman is to hack geshmak whether it be in person or online (assuming it’s filtered).
    There’s nothing more choshuv than this!
    Halevai we would all spend more time hacking and machin a shtikl leitzanus.
    Hack isn’t b’dieved, it’s lechatchila!
    The question isn’t whether buchrim should be hacking but rather what’s the shiur of being yotzei Zein Bein hazmanim hack.

    Good Shabbos

    #2078691
    takahmamash
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    “Is it kdai for bochurim to be using YWN coffee room during bein hazmanim?”

    You’re asking the wrong question. The proper question should be “is it kdai for any alleged Chasid or Chareidi person to be on YW at all, since we all know that there is not one Chassidich Rebbe or Chareidi Rosh Yeshiva that would give reshus to any of their Chassidim/talmidim/followers to be using the internet in this manner.”

    #2078693
    Gadolhadorah
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    “We all know that there is not one Chassidich Rebbe or Chareidi Rosh Yeshiva that would give reshus to any of their Chassidim/talmidim/followers to be using the internet in this manner.”
    The chief Rav of the CR and many equally chashuvah rabbonim have endorsed and contributed to the CR dialogue. Indeed, Rav Yosef of the Trollevitch Chasidus has himself been know to be lurking here and occasionally dropping a vert or two known to elicit multiple responses.

    #2078698
    Katonti
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    The real question is whether a family with a son returning from Yeshiva should be having unfiltered internet readily available for them to be nichshal with.
    Halevai that YWN was the issue buchrim were having on the internet.
    I can assure you it’s not. Just check out GYE.
    YWN isn’t our nisayon, it’s not what destroys a temimusdik’eh Ben Torah over a Bein Hazmanim…

    #2078725
    Gadolhadorah
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    “Just check out GYE…”

    Not sure I get your point. The “GYE.Com” website URL is listed as “for sale”.

    #2078741
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    GH,

    Are you saying you don’t know what Gye is, I highly doubt it as they have ads on here (the website isn’t Gye. Com anyways)

    #2078740
    Gadolhadorah
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    GYE=Guard Your Eyes??? If so, not sure whats your point. While there are some who obviously have some form of “addiction” to online pritizus, such addictions existed long-before Al Gore invented the internet.

    #2078739
    Katonti
    Participant

    guardyoureyes.com

    Lifesavers. Gut Moed

    #2078751
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    CA: Believe it or not, I don’t focus on all the flashing ads and the acronym is not one that everyone would immediately associate with 302.89 remedial issues.

    #2078748
    Katonti
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    Lol
    The point I made is let’s not pretend like YWN is what we should be concerned Buchrim are doing/watching on the internet.

    And btw, GYE isn’t just for peaople with an “addiction,” it’s for anyone who struggles with shmiras eynayim on the internet etc.
    And it’s not just “some,” I can assure you that.
    There are unfortunately a comparable amount of religious jews/buchrim on p*** sites then there is on YWN, so to have a thread crying about buchrim on YWN we should be talking about the real churban that’s taking place.

    #2078867
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    “There are unfortunately a comparable amount of religious jews/buchrim on p*** sites then there is on YWN…”

    Katoni: I suspect the YWN management might respectfully disagree that there are more yidden viewing frum *** sites than frum news sites. You exaggerate a bit much with respect to the “real churban”.

    edited

    #2078878
    Katonti
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    1. Not sure what a frum **** site is and don’t wanna know.
    2. I didn’t say it’s more, I said it’s comparable.
    3. I could be wrong. I hope I am. YWN is great, I doubt they have statistics though of what sites Bochurim or any Jewish male go on after visiting YWN from unfiltered/unsupervised internet. Again I hope it’s not comparable, but I think it is.
    4. It’s appalling to see you’re capable of not looking at all the “flashy adds” here, yet you are incapable of seeing what is eating away at the fabric of our People.

    5. I don’t need to cite rabbonim/gedolim to know the scope of this issue. I’ve been in mesivta, Bais medrash, I know plenty of buchrim, dorm and camp counselors and rebbeium, and you are ignorant at best if you think unfiltered internet is not an issue in our community. Ignorant at best.
    6. Is it hard for you to understand that boys/men of all ages when confronted with unfiltered and unsupervised internet access while have a taiva to be nichshal?
    – Perhaps you think we are all tzadikim, but something tells me you’d agree there’s plenty of drum Jews who speak lashon hara and miss zman kriyas shema from time to time. Can you really not fathom a someone struggling with this?
    – Again, ignorant at best.

    Gut Moed

    #2078882
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Katoni: Having reviewed your lengthy rant several times (including your proclivity to refer to anyone who disagrees with you as “ignorant”) I continue to question your assertions on the scope of the problem. Of course there are many individuals who have issues with xxxxx but I don’t believe the numbers are nearly at the level you claim or anywhere near comparable to those who daily use frum and secular news sites and . And yes, I fully understand the struggles of anyone dealing with ANY form of addiction but I’m a bit puzzled by your projecting your own issues on others.

    #2078897
    Katonti
    Participant

    1. You’re hilarious, I have a “proclivity to refer to anyone who disagrees with you as “ignorant”?
    – I’ve posted like 5 times here, seems like insufficient evidence to back your spurious claim.
    2. It’s ok to disagree on the scope. Like I said I hope you are right but I’m afraid you’re wrong.
    3. Again you bring in addiction, that puzzles me given that I never discussed addiction.
    4. Do you really not think having unfiltered internet access for oneself/children is a problem?
    5. Your point about projecting is truly obnoxious and disgusting given that you don’t know my internet history.
    -You seem very defensive about this, but I won’t ask why.

    Again it’s poshut to anyone with a brain that unfiltered internet is a sakana and if you have it there’s a good chance someone in the home will be watching **** at some point. Addiction? No I didn’t say that.

    Enjoy your day

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