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March 9, 2011 7:41 pm at 7:41 pm #595586☕️coffee addictParticipant
Why is it that some people call seminaries, yeshiva? I don’t see a difference where in the world it is even if it is the Diaspora “Yeshiva” it’s a seminary
March 9, 2011 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #748131i am hereMemberwell you have men teachers in seminary, some say my rebbe said this and my rebbi said that. So i guess it can be called “yeshiva”
March 9, 2011 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #748132always hereParticipantmbachur~ the Diaspora Yeshiva is not a seminary. it was a co-ed BT yeshiva with separate classes for boys & girls.
March 9, 2011 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #748133☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThen “Yeshivas Chofetz Chaim” should stop calling themselves a “seminary”!
March 9, 2011 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #748134ha ha ha haMemberA father of a girl called the shaddchunim that they need a rich boy since the girl wants to sit and learn….
March 9, 2011 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #748135cooljudeMembersorry- but who cares, as long as you understand…..
March 9, 2011 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #748136Shticky GuyParticipantboys go to yeshiva, girls go to sem
Thanx to mbachur, the bachur who isnt, for clearing up that stage of life. (There’s some random praise for you…)
The next stage of course is that men go to kollel and women go to work.
March 9, 2011 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #748137popa_bar_abbaParticipantBoys to go to yeshiva, to get more knowledge;
Girls stay home, to cook us dinner.
(A friend of mine caught some good flak for teaching that to his pre-school campers. They said college obviously.)
March 9, 2011 9:08 pm at 9:08 pm #748138ItcheSrulikMemberYou know, that’s a very good question. Why are all the rabbinic seminaries around the world called yeshivas?
March 9, 2011 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm #748139KeenObserverMemberOn the contrary, “seminary” is the generally accepted English translation for “yeshiva”. It is a somewhat inadequate translation, because a seminary is generally a place where religious officials are trained, so it carries the implication that it exists to train Rabbis, unlike the idea of learning l’shmah. However, “seminary” can simply mean a place where religion or theology is studied.
As far as I can tell, the use of “seminary” for Jewish female educational institutes is the same as the first sense above: a school which trains religious teachers. In this sense it’s short for “teacher’s seminary.” In fact, some schools such as Gateshead have “Teacher’s Seminary” as part of their name.
Nowadays, it seems that the majority of female seminary graduates do not go into teaching, and some seminaries offer different tracks to students who want a teacher’s certificate, so “seminary” is being used in pretty much the same sense it would be used to describe a yeshiva: a place where religion and religious texts are studied.
March 9, 2011 9:52 pm at 9:52 pm #748140guy-ochoMemberon the Torah Ore (Jerusalem) application it says its a seminary.
Not sure if it proves anything, as they didn’t change it since 1950
March 10, 2011 12:30 am at 12:30 am #748141whatelseisleftMemberpopa:
fyi – its boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider
girls go to college to get more knowledge
March 10, 2011 12:41 am at 12:41 am #748142popa_bar_abbaParticipantMy version is clearly correct.
The proof is that your version does not make any sense, since the boys and girls could be interchanged in the poem, with the meaning otherwise unchanged.
It is therefore no more clever than simply saying, “you’re stupid.”
I’m sorry you didn’t have a counselor as clever as my friend.
March 10, 2011 2:20 am at 2:20 am #748143whatelseisleftMemberFunny how your friend most likely got the idea from the old jump-rope rhyme.
March 10, 2011 2:25 am at 2:25 am #748144popa_bar_abbaParticipantOf course he did.
But he made it clever.
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