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    Excellence
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    Normal plain chips from a packet. There seems to be a difference of opinion. Shehakol or haadama?

    #1142116

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    What type of chips?

    #1142117

    popa_bar_abba
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    hagafen.

    #1142118

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    I don’t know what bracha hagafen chips are.

    #1142119

    Excellence
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    Normal plain chips. Every bracha book says haadama but I’ve some say it’s no longer an original potato so shehakol

    #1142120

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Regular potato chips (not Pringles) are hoadama.

    #1142121

    apushatayid
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    Herrs potato chips (you can take a factory tour and see it for yourself) are sliced potatoes that are seasoned and fried.

    #1142122

    Joseph
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    How are Pringles different than other potato chips?

    #1142123

    zahavasdad
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    Pringles arent potato chips, they are potato “CRISPS” . Regular potato chips are sliced potatos boiled in oil. Pringles are different, they are potatoes that are smashed into a paste and formed into that shape and then cooked

    Notice regular chips are all sorts of shapes and sizes and pringles are always perfect

    #1142124

    nishtdayngesheft
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    Regular potato chips are made from slices of potato that are fried (or sometimes baked).

    Pringles are made from potatoes (And probably other chazzerei mixed in) that are made into a powder/ or paste such that they do have the appearance of potatoes any more and then that paste is fried or baked into the familiar Pringle chips.

    #1142125

    Joseph
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    What makes the Pringles halachicly different than potato chips as far as a bracha?

    #1142126

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    I think you make a shehechiyanu on Pringles, because nishdayngesheft and zahavasdad agree about them.

    #1142127

    zahavasdad
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    lol @ DY

    #1142128

    YW Moderator-42
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    There are many types of chips nowadays. Are you referring to potato chips, corn chips, sorghum chips…? Are they made from sliced potatoes or smashed potatos (like pringles)?

    (As an aside, pringles should be hamotzi because once you pop you can’t stop so it is a full meal :). )

    #1142129

    popa_bar_abba
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    OP is asking about wine chips. Otherwise he would have specified potato chips or corn or tortilla or flotilla chips or whatever. You’re all morons for not seeing that, and in particular dy and the brocha on all of you is

    #1142130

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    …meshaneh habrios?

    #1142131

    Geordie613
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    I think it’s pretty simple.

    If the potato is sliced and fried/baked then it’s hoadomo. If it’s pringle style ground and then reshaped and baked/fried then it’s shehakol.

    The same goes for corn flakes.

    Kugel is the same. If it has recognisable pieces of potato, it’s hoadomo. If it’s too finely grated, then it’s shehakol.

    #1142132

    Excellence
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    I said normal packet of plain chips. When did I say wine chips?!

    Normal plain potato chips.

    #1142133

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Why are “plain chips” assumed to be potato chips? Maybe they’re plain corn chips or plain banana chips or or plain bagel chips or plain wine chips.

    #1142134

    apushatayid
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    Or wood chips

    #1142135

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Or chocolate chips.

    #1142136

    Or the OP could be British.

    #1142137

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    OK, chocolate fries.

    #1142138

    mik5
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    Some people make a shehakol of potatoes.

    #1142139

    Geordie613
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    Shehakol is said on potatoes if they are raw. They couldn’t properly be called chips.

    #1142140

    Mammele
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    Most people would probably assume “plain chips” to mean potato chips, but when asking any shaila it’s very important to be specific.

    There’s a well known story of the Tzehlimer Rav zt”l no longer paskening shailos by phone after misunderstanding a caller that asked about a piece of “bret” falling into a dish (I’m not sure if it was a pot or bowl) of Pesach soup. The caller was Litvish and asking about actual bread, the Rav thought he meant a piece of wood — and told him to simply take it out of the soup.

    In this case it wasn’t a lack of specificity but different Yiddish accents that caused the confusion, but my point is that a more concise question lowers the chance of a misunderstanding leading to a wrong answer — which was most likely the reason for all the tongue-in-cheek replies here — to teach the asker a lesson.

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