April 3, 2013 9:48 am at 9:48 am #608837LeyzerParticipant
Does anyone know the Halachic parameters governing the purchase of Chometz from jewish-owned shops/bakeries after Pesach?
I know that some people are Makpid not to buy bread from bakeries directly after Pesach, but am not sure why.
Someone suggested it is because these people prefer not to buy Chometz Gomur which has been sold over Pesach. My problem with this is that if this is a genuine problem, surely that would make purchases from any kosher supermarket forbidden for at least several months, until their supplies of pre-Pesach stock ran out. And AFAIK no-one is this Machmir!
Can anyone clarify?April 3, 2013 11:25 am at 11:25 am #1143700Israeli ChareidiParticipant
There are two different issues here that tend to get confused.
1) Any Chometz that was owned by a Jew over Pesach (your local supermarket that might be owned by a non-religious Jew). It is forbidden to derive any benefit from it even after Pesach. This is an issur m’derabonon. Regarding how to define ownership (the manager is Jewish, some of the shareholders are Jewish, etc.), speak to your local halachically competent rabbi.
2)Any chometz that was correctly sold by a Jew to a gentile over Pesach is %100 permissible to be eaten. Many people are of the custom not to sell actual chometz of their own unless a large monetary loss will be incurred through its disposal (a store owner or an expensive stash of whiskey). It is common, especially in Eretz Yisroel, to find those who will be stringent on themselves not to use chometz, even though it was properly sold, whose grain was ground before pesach (besides for flour that was especially prepared in a chometz free way – like that which is used for matzoh). You will find these people specifically looking for the label that says, “nitchan achar hapesach”. This is not an halachic requirement but rather a stringency mentioned by the Chazon Ish which many people have come to adopt.April 3, 2013 11:29 am at 11:29 am #1143701lesschumrasParticipant
Ask a Rabbi!!!!!April 3, 2013 11:55 am at 11:55 am #1143702
Yes, many people are indeed careful with that.
In many places on many products you will see stickers on many products: ???? ???? ???April 3, 2013 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm #1143703☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
They don’t wait until all supplies run out, they wait until there is a rov shelo avar alav haPesach.April 3, 2013 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm #1143704old manParticipant
You can buy what you need from wherever you want.
You are correct more than you think. There are chametz ingredients that have a shelf life of years and are not included in processed products until they are near the end of this period.March 27, 2016 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm #1143705mik5Participant
The Gra did not buy chametz that was sold. But that was a personal chumra of his.March 27, 2016 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #1143706NechomahParticipant
I’m not sure why it’s taken that it was just a person chumra of his. I know many people who wait to buy “new” chometz. I personally look at every production date of chometzdig things, even now, to see when they were made. Some people are only machmir to check until Shavuos. Maybe that’s because of DY’s comment about rov being from after Pesach, but it is well known here that many companies might supply “new” chometz in the initial days/weeks after Pesach but then go back into their storage of products that are older but still within the permissible time frame and start selling them 3 or 4 months after Pesach. As far as the comment about ???? ???? ???? there is an even more stringent level which says ???? ???? ????? ???? ???? meaning that even the flour was freshly ground after Pesach. Many bakeries have a supply of flour to last for several days and the Badatz Eidah HaChareidis, which has many bakeries under its supervision, provides a number to call to hear when each bakery will start to provide products, even regular sliced bread, that is, at the very least, from dry flour and not from regular bleached flour, which by some opinions is considered chometz because it was wet at one time.March 28, 2016 1:12 am at 1:12 am #1143707theprof1Participant
all food stores sell their chometz over pesach. its been a general hungarian custom not to buy bread from even a yid who sold his chometz. selling chometz is a complete halacho. you want chumras? how about a chumra of being especially friendly and helpful to other people. and instead of being so careful of what goes into your mouth; be extra careful of what comes out of your mouth, speech, davening, learning.
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