Can a Yid Criticize the President?

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    passfan
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    I heard a godol say that it is prohibited for a yid to publicly criticize the President (and other politicians) as this is a medina shel chesed and such criticism causes sinas yisroel (anti-semitism) and we are still in golus.

    #836439
    Sam2
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    Bava Basra 4a (3a?).

    #836440
    sam4321
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    Sam2: maybe the gemara is davka talking about a king.

    #836441
    dash™
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    The Gemorah there is talking about cursing a Jewish king and actually criticizes Herod. It seems that even to curse Herod would have been permisable but wasn’t done due to fear.

    #836442
    Sam2
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    If it was Assur I would have said it was Assur. This Gemara shows that it’s a good idea not to regardless.

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    Only American Jews can criticize a U.S. President. If you are an Yisroeldike or British or European Jew, mind your own business!

    Seriously, we’re Jews but we are also Americans with the same rights, protections and priviledges as any other American.

    #836444
    passfan
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    Not every right enjoyed under American law is enjoyed under Torah law.

    #836446
    lesschumras
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    Just because the Satmar Rebbe said LT doesn’t make it Torah law

    #836447
    passfan
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    Just because a godol said something doesn’t make it Torah law; the godol said it because it is Torah law. (And in this case he explained it with the sources, if you listen to his full comments.)

    #836448
    lesschumras
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    The Satmar Rebe’s views are his ( especially on Israel ) but are not Torah law to non-Satmar

    #836449
    passfan
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    The same Torah applies to all of the klal.

    #836450
    lesschumras
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    But not his interpretation of it

    #836451
    passfan
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    You can interpret the Torah better than the gedolim or able to judge them?

    #836452
    optimusprime
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    passfan

    Must I follow the Satmar Rebbe’s interpretation in everything? If my Lithuanian Rosh Yeshiva allows me to shave, does that mean I am violating the Torah since the Satmar Rebbe forbids it?

    As we both know, there are seventy faces of the Torah. You and I can follow different faces, yet the same Torah.

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    Avraham
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    #836455
    akuperma
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    I believe the Gadol in question said not to be rude and insulting when criticizing the President. YWN’s editors dreamed up the part about not criticizing the President.

    #836456
    ED IT OR
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    I think that just like the halocho of if one person does not want the chazan no’one is yotzei,

    if one person is president and NOBODY wants him ….. (even if we are British)

    but we must still respect him if we want pollard and rubashkin freed…

    so yes, we must not (publicly) criticise the president (or anyone else)

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